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put a 1F cap isolated to the headunit. that should keep the deck on during your burp. Use several large diodes or light guage wire to keep it isolated
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Ray has some updates
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quote:
Originally posted by dtbrown:
Ray has some updates

Not quite yet!!!

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Congrats on the score any pics bro one 12 wow sweet what ya do with 2in there. What kind of power you getting out of that amp in a two sub setup. looks like this yr is going to be fun.
Good job bro

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Thanks TJ, but I will post pics up later!!

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cool

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what does that amp put out at 18v????

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No clue!

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quote:
Originally posted by kraven moorehead:
what does that amp put out at 18v????

Alot!!! [Cool]

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My guess 15000-20000w.
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quote:
Originally posted by D-Bass:
put a 1F cap isolated to the headunit. that should keep the deck on during your burp. Use several large diodes or light guage wire to keep it isolated

lol old school hahahah thats hot. [Blob]

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Finally got a decent amp meter. I tested the amp on a NSBg2400 battery street A style. I got close to the power I predicted:
Charging battery with alternator and shutting off car before testing

Starting voltage 13.4v
Voltage drop 9.4v
76.8 volts
68.5 amps
5260.8 watts

Which is very good power from this amp off of a group 2400 battery. I think I will change batts and go with the group 2700 this year. With a stronger reserve, it should give more power. Done testing will see you all in the lanes.

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damn thats inefficient. My American Bass 1000.1 does 5200wrms at 1ohm and the batt only drops to 10.8 from 13.4

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I dont want this to be a pissing match, but I have to say it, the AB1000.1 is essentially two amps in one. Which would make it a little more efficient. Which I can admit, made it the badboy of the block.....until now! [Laugh] [Big Grin] [Razz] (Just messing with you Tom). But after that the voltage drops, it shuts down/goes into protect. This Elite 12 keeps on going.
Now this is why I love this amp: I have only one run of each wire to each terminal and the battery I am using is beat to hell! Not even a true group 2700. I am picking up a brand new stinger 1700 today and will be doubling up my power wire. And oh I forgot to mention also, I held the burps for an extra second or two during testing, so voltage actually fell to around 10.1 with the NSBg2400 and to 10.6 with the NSBg3100. Trust I have a lot more to do!!! [Wink] [Big Grin] But also I figure for street a and b, since we have limited battery power, if you have an amp that is rated over 8k, the most you will get out of it is 5200-5500 watts. But I love this amp, one it is bullet proof. I am beating the hell out of it and it still is going strong, two I have not even maxxed out the capabilities of this amp (minimum power wire and minimum battery power) and it is still pushing stronger than most single board amps I have tested. And I have had tested a lot of them.

[ 03-29-2009, 06:42 AM: Message edited by: Manny ]

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Yeah your right that's alot of power. Also my 10.8 was measured at the battery not the amp

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quote:
Originally posted by ShockingCanada:
Yeah your right that's alot of power. Also my 10.8 was measured at the battery not the amp

I test voltage drop at the amp. You loose about 0.5 volts in a true 1/0 wire from the batt to the amp. So that does make a big difference.

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Tom clear your pm box!!

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oh sorry I cleared it...I don't think I have ever deleted a message from there I am surprised it never told me it was full

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For sure the ab1000.1 will be more efficient since it's two amps so your results make sense. To bad you can't get a lower impedance and I think you could see a .5db gain from your amps Tom. And Ray still having to double up his wire from 8run to 16 will help a lot to.
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quote:
Originally posted by Manny:
Finally got a decent amp meter. I tested the amp on a NSBg2400 battery street A style. I got close to the power I predicted:
Charging battery with alternator and shutting off car before testing

Starting voltage 13.4v
Voltage drop 9.4v
76.8 volts
68.5 amps
5260.8 watts

Which is very good power from this amp off of a group 2400 battery. I think I will change batts and go with the group 2700 this year. With a stronger reserve, it should give more power. Done testing will see you all in the lanes.

lol... you have alot more testing to do.
in the Street A car at ESB, he was using 1 GZ 20kw, thats 2 7kw in 1 case, and from what I got from then they said the Elt.12 is way more eff. than the GZ.
They got about same power from the Elt.12 as from the GZ 20kw. but with a less volt drop.

What I have tested this weekend at the show, it was the 1st time I ever did test with box rise, volts and so on.
I have done some intresting test and saw big diff. volt drop (1.5v more) with same frq. and same ohm and same score.. normaly I would have a have a volt drop of 9,4-7 and when I tested we saw 10.5-8 volt.
now I have learned some thing more, and now I will use this power of info and get louder... [Blob]

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quote:
Originally posted by Cactus Sounds:
quote:
Originally posted by Manny:
Finally got a decent amp meter. I tested the amp on a NSBg2400 battery street A style. I got close to the power I predicted:
Charging battery with alternator and shutting off car before testing

Starting voltage 13.4v
Voltage drop 9.4v
76.8 volts
68.5 amps
5260.8 watts

Which is very good power from this amp off of a group 2400 battery. I think I will change batts and go with the group 2700 this year. With a stronger reserve, it should give more power. Done testing will see you all in the lanes.

lol... you have alot more testing to do.
in the Street A car at ESB, he was using 1 GZ 20kw, thats 2 7kw in 1 case, and from what I got from then they said the Elt.12 is way more eff. than the GZ.
They got about same power from the Elt.12 as from the GZ 20kw. but with a less volt drop.

What I have tested this weekend at the show, it was the 1st time I ever did test with box rise, volts and so on.
I have done some intresting test and saw big diff. volt drop (1.5v more) with same frq. and same ohm and same score.. normaly I would have a have a volt drop of 9,4-7 and when I tested we saw 10.5-8 volt.
now I have learned some thing more, and now I will use this power of info and get louder... [Blob]

you knew this for over 4 years [Big Grin]
and asked me about it 1 week back [Big Grin]

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Some how I just did not want to beleave it.
Now I know better. [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Cactus Sounds:
quote:
Originally posted by Manny:
Finally got a decent amp meter. I tested the amp on a NSBg2400 battery street A style. I got close to the power I predicted:
Charging battery with alternator and shutting off car before testing

Starting voltage 13.4v
Voltage drop 9.4v
76.8 volts
68.5 amps
5260.8 watts

Which is very good power from this amp off of a group 2400 battery. I think I will change batts and go with the group 2700 this year. With a stronger reserve, it should give more power. Done testing will see you all in the lanes.

lol... you have alot more testing to do.
in the Street A car at ESB, he was using 1 GZ 20kw, thats 2 7kw in 1 case, and from what I got from then they said the Elt.12 is way more eff. than the GZ.
They got about same power from the Elt.12 as from the GZ 20kw. but with a less volt drop.

What I have tested this weekend at the show, it was the 1st time I ever did test with box rise, volts and so on.
I have done some intresting test and saw big diff. volt drop (1.5v more) with same frq. and same ohm and same score.. normaly I would have a have a volt drop of 9,4-7 and when I tested we saw 10.5-8 volt.
now I have learned some thing more, and now I will use this power of info and get louder... [Blob]

We did with less power (read 2KW) more score then with the GZ. Because the amplifier is much smaller. Now we have to find the right boxrise impendance (it was way to high) and get allot of power from it.
From wat i can say its the nicest amplifier i have ever played with. And we have played with allot of different amplifiers. Everything is on the right place on this amplifier. Well thought about it [Blob] .

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Now that you guys have the amp...
Get testing... [Wink]

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Keep in mind that Ray won't get the 7000-8000w you guys with Pandas get from the same amp. His frequency is a lot lower which has a huge effect on the efficiency of the amp and what it'll produce with the given Battery. I can for sure see him getting around 6000w once dialed in which will still be the strongest amp out there.
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