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Just wondering how long will it take to get warrenty on the Stetsom amp. I understand the power and price issue but what about getting them replaced when something goes wrong. Where is the closest dealer in Iowa. I wouldn't want to buy something that might take weeks to get back.
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If Need Warrenty is taken care of in the U.S. But if you smoke this amps you have done Something Really Really Wrong!! We have dead shorted these amps and they still play! Not saying that they are indestructible but they are Tuff!!! Alan is still setting Dealrs up Across the US but mean time you would send it to NC to Alan. As far weeks to get back unless you are GOOD Friends with a shop owner anything you buy will take weeks to get back. Even if the product has an Over the counter warrenty most shop will not replace it if you have used it for SPL. They say that "extreme use of that nature VOIDS the Warrenty." But I fell Sure that you will not have A problem. The new amps came in sometime last week they measure from the edge of the Case right at 24" add about 1" for terminals. So around 25" long!
And as far as .9 not being that much of a difference you must not ever have lost by .1Db. I have and it sucks!! Everyone knows that its hard to gain any Db more less .9!
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- Is ours more expensive per watt?....maybe - Will we be in business next year and the year after and the year after?...yep - Do we support the dB Drag Association with corporate membership?....yep - Do we sponsor trophies at many, many events each year?...yep - Do we supply tons of products for give aways and raffles at dealer events accross the country?...yep - Do we attend World Finals?....yep - Do we travel to several shows all over the country to support our team?...yep - Does any of this matter when making an amp choice?...it should
Hi all
I think this is interesting, STETSOM has just come to the US, we have over 20 Years of existing in Brazil, we have the biggest FACTORY in all South America and probably North America as well, i don't know about your company but we intend to be here for many years if god permits. We have our own engineering department in Brazil not abroad. We are not interested in "wars" with other companies but are defenatly not afraid of the market, we are here to show what we can do, if you want to test a 7K D at your home base please feel free to do it, i know that you will like it, and thats a general feeling for does who test the Amps.
Best Regards
Lets all play loud!
I know we will!
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quote:Originally posted by Team Maxxsonics - John:
quote:Originally posted by dtbrown:
quote:Originally posted by pimpin at my house: i was wondering if anybody else caught on 5k vrs 7k ,lol.
i think that ur testing proves how powerful the goliath is, only .9dbs down from a amp claiming 2k more power. grab a sampson and then compare head to head.
it is stit is still a compliment when someone is using ur product as a standard. u know ur on top then...
how wouldn't that test be fair? If you know anything about amps power ratings, they can be taken with a grain of salt. Both of these amps are close to same price and size. And when you are talking about one high power amp being .9 louder than another, that is a huge difference. And there is nothing possible bad to say about the goliath cuz it's a very well made amp. But the tests are fair in the spl world. Now to test the somson vs. The stetsom that may not be fair cuz now it's twice the price and over a foot longer. In the spl world we as competitors compare price for real power and if you're a street competitor we compare price, real power and size. I'm just trying to explain why this is a good and fair test for the spl world.
You are making a blanket statement and assuming the 2.1 rise is ideal for the Goliath. You are incorrect sir!
If you want to do a fair test, test each amp at their optimum rise. What is good for the goose is not alway good for the gander.
Do you trust one manufacturer to test another manufacturers product in a head to head test?
- Is ours more expensive per watt?....maybe - Will we be in business next year and the year after and the year after?...yep - Do we support the dB Drag Association with corporate membership?....yep - Do we sponsor trophies at many, many events each year?...yep - Do we supply tons of products for give aways and raffles at dealer events accross the country?...yep - Do we attend World Finals?....yep - Do we travel to several shows all over the country to support our team?...yep - Does any of this matter when making an amp choice?...it should
I think it is great what Maxxsonics is doing for the sport, and I wish more manufacturers would get as involved. Keep in mind though, you are not doing it just for the heck of it, you are doing these things to get more exposure for your company, which I also think is a great thing. You guys (Maxxsonics) are abviously doing it right because the company continues to grow.
Now, none of that really matters when we are discussing amp testing. This post was intended to show the capability of the Stetsom amps, not to see which company has better support.
I understand that Maxxsonics kind of got dragged into it when they compared the Stetsom to the Goliath, but it's a good comparison.
If you don't agree with the results, maybe you should order a Stetsom and do your own testing (in real world applications) and post your own results. I know Maxxsonics is fully capable of doing so. Besides, I'd like to see the results from multiple sources as well.
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Keep in mind Stetsom has not post anything or call out anyone. At this time the only person that works Directly for Stestom is the person nder the Stetsom User Name. the rest of us are Competitors. And Yes Alan is the one bringing them in the U.S. I think Maxxsinics should be happy that a new company to the U.S. Market whould compare their amps to yours. And as for Stetsom geos as far as comparing the two they need and amp everyone knows about. I mean what good would it do to compare an amp no one Knows! They both are good product it just depends on your Appilcation which is best for you! Of course we feel the Statsom will work in Most All Applications.
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quote:Originally posted by Team Maxxsonics - John:
Results from one manufacture testing anothers is also open to speculation and is suspicious. [/QB]
I think all John is saying that it is ok to do a test and post results but atleast use an amp that is comparable. The hifonics amp that was probably used to test is an amp that was manufactured over a year ago and since then a new version of the amp has been made that is better and stronger. To use an outdated amp in a test with a new amp is alittle unfair.
I have seen the stetsom amps and they do prove to be little power houses I have to say but I would like to see a test done with a few different brand amps but are the current model amps for the brand used. Maybe trying stetsom against a incriminator amp or jbl amp, etc. some other choices for people to see the differences at all voltages. that would help anyone looking for an amp make a very well rounded informed decision based on their specific needs. Granted a Street person is facing a problem with size. Say an amp that is 35 inches long compared to an amp that is 25" long. That would give Stetsom the edge they need to be competitive not to mention the power house you would get from such a small amp. but for those that don't care about size they are given more choices to choose from. just my .02 cents, not trying to start anything.
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I'm curious if any of the hecklers actually have the money to buy one of these amps?
I'm going to post results of the Stetsom 7KD versus a punch 45 from 1990.
B.T.W. Isn't Stetsom the distributor for DD in Brazil?
-------------------- Glenn B. director of Engineering and Composites Proven World Class Loudspeakers Posts: 247 | From: T3 Audio Inc. | Registered: May 2007
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quote:Originally posted by T3AUDIO: I'm curious if any of the hecklers actually have the money to buy one of these amps?
I'm going to post results of the Stetsom 7KD versus a punch 45 from 1990.
B.T.W. Isn't Stetsom the distributor for DD in Brazil?
Subscribed and waiting for results.
L.O.L. I think the punch 45 might do pretty well...
-------------------- Glenn B. director of Engineering and Composites Proven World Class Loudspeakers Posts: 247 | From: T3 Audio Inc. | Registered: May 2007
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What does it matter If they are a distributor for DD in Brazil? OR was that just FREE Info?
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I have test results of the Stetsom vs. a DD Z1. First I would like to state that I am comparing similar size and priced amps and not what they are rated at. These power test are specifically for spl power comparisions and not to represent actuall bench power test. And yes I know that I'm comparing a 3k amp to a 7k amp so you don't have to point it out. And if you think it's not a fair test then find me an amp that is 7k rating and similar in price and size and I'll be more than happy to compare for you. Now that that is said.
All test done on a single NSB90. The Z1 had 2 1/0 ground and power and Stetsom had 1 1/0 ground and power. These numbers are the highest of each test with other tests with in 100w of what is stated.
Z1 @ .5ohms rise to 1.74ohms 77.1v 44.2a 3400w
Stetsom @ .5ohms rise to 1.71 80.6v 46.9a 3800w
Spl difference .3db
Z1 @ .25ohm rise to .877ohm 60.1v 68.5a 4100w
Stetsom @ .25ohm rise to .90ohm 63.3v 70.3a 4400w
Spl difference .2db
One thing the Stetsom does that the Z1 doens't is when tested the Stetsom voltage will peak to 71-75v then level off at 63ish volts. So if I was to record peak voltage then the amp would be 5000 to 5200w. The Z1 in test just goes to 60ish volts and then goes to 59.9,59.8,59.7 with no peak. It just goes to show that with if we had a bigger battery the Stetsom wants to produce the 5000+ watts. Our battery can't keep the voltage up for it to do so. With big cell batterys being allowed the Stetsom is going to be a force to be delt with. Going to retest this week with more power wire going to the Stetsom like the Z1 had and a slight modification to the Stetsom. I'll post when that is done. If you live localy to me and would like to see the amp before you buy let me know and I'll direct you to who you can buy it from.
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the best day off my life, today at suprime audio we test 1 stetsom agaist 1 hifonics golias,well i think you all get off the roof, 2 batterys 1 gogoggoglias 3400 w rms at 11.3volts 155.1 dbs with 0,25 ohms rise to 0,9 ohms,uuuu not bad. 2 batterys 2 goooooooolias or only lias ,157.3 dbs now lets talk competitor to competitor for $3600,00 on 2 gogoliasss only 157.3dbs i don't whant to be bad guy ,but my stetsom 7kd is just CRAZY loud ,we have at Devino astro van 1 7kd at 0,25 ohms rise to 0.9 ohms with 2 batterys, drop to 11.6 volts and 5300 w rms we did CRAZY 157.1 dbs .i whant to see if hifonics can do better , only solid 2 dbs louder then 1 gooooliiiassss ,Devino needs 2 gogoliassss to do only 0,2 dbs louder,better not tel the resolts with 2 7kds .one more thin for only $1350,00 with the price off one gogoloias you can get 2 7kd and do at list 2 dbs louder then 2 gogolias.
Sharing your test results is one thing, making deragotory remarks about others is not allowed. Do it again and this entire post will disappear.
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quote:Originally posted by Team Maxxsonics - John: I think this is interesting, STETSOM has just come to the US, we have over 20 Years of existing in Brazil, we have the biggest FACTORY in all South America and probably North America as well, i don't know about your company but we intend to be here for many years if god permits. We have our own engineering department in Brazil not abroad. We are not interested in "wars" with other companies but are defenatly not afraid of the market, we are here to show what we can do, if you want to test a 7K D at your home base please feel free to do it, i know that you will like it, and thats a general feeling for does who test the Amps.
Best Regards
Lets all play loud!
I know we will!
I'm always happy to see new companies (to the US) entering the market. I think good competition is healthy for the industry.
No one has any interest in "wars" with other companies. We do in house testing on our competitors products regularly just to ensure we maintain an edge. We would never speculate, brag or boast the results and would never post our results in public. We feel that the products can speak for themselves and the customers can choose for themselves. There are plenty of independant tests and all results vary.
I think that for one manufacture to call out another is in poor taste. Results from one manufacture testing anothers is also open to speculation and is suspicious.
We also design and engineer our own products but we do it in the USA. [/QB][/QUOTE]uuuu why you are CRAZY abolt Stetsom? , here is a post for stetsom test , we are not compare to your thin , but if you need i will show what i see alt your amplifiers in real world, don't came here like sales guy ,and talk abolt what you do for competition, you see what i am going to do for mister Harrys, you all have make lots money of the people,and now whants to compare your company to stetsom, like you sad , we only start and we are louder , lets see if you can do a 10000 w rms amplifier at 4 ohms and with 26 inchs long not 4 foot like yours, and half the weight compare to your thin, one more thin stetsom can be bridge .....
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quote:Originally posted by egg: 1 word "HYPE" lets get this marketing crap off of the forums Just my 2 cents
I think the word you were looking for is Fact!! I sure Alan just Pi$$ Off a few people but thats how it is! He did not start this one against the other on this thread. He just posted some results on a test and someone didn't like it. And that what this thread is about!! TEST RESULTS ON THE STETSOM 7KD
3 FACTS TO THINK ABOUT!!
Fact: 1:these Amps get Loud with little power!
2: They are A Lot SMALLER Than most amps that put out this kind of power.
3: If you compare by Price per watt you cant touch this amp!!
Like Alan Said Stestom WILL BE at all of the Finals!! I guess we will have to wait until next year when everyone see how dominate they are at finals then whatch all the "HYPE"
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ok .now let's show my home test with 4 the bigs companys in the USA, DD (Z2), hifonics gogo girl ,USAmps and JBL (crow) DD Z2 = 2 amplifiers bridge at 0,7ohms rise to 1.4 ohms with 16 volts ,179.1 db. Golias 5000 = 2 amplifiers bridge at 0,7 ohms rise to 1,4 ohms with 16 volts, 177.9 dbs usamps AX3200DE = 2 amplifiers working stereo 0.5 ohms eat= 175.3dbs JBL CROW = 2 amplifiers with dual 0.7 ohms , one amplifier / coil 178,8 dbs stetsom 7kd= 2 stetsom bridge at 0.7 ohms rise to 1.4 ohms 16 volts 179.0 dbs. this tests with the crow and usamps i did last year! the best aplication for the 7kds will be bridge 2 amps at 0.25 ohms 16 volts ,at Craig Butler van we run 2 amps bridge at 0.175 ohms with 16 volts, the van can 180ss all day with 6 amplifiers , we see what she's doing with 12 amplifiers !i don't whant to tell what the van can do ,but is CRAZY loud . i whants to thanks for all my sponsors,fist big thanks to power master ,Scottie big thanks for the 24 batterys. Big thanks to my love company ,DD , Jassa is the best speaker builder on the planet ,he is the MAN! Stetsom i have big thanks for all the help to my family, stetsom is part of my life ,BIG THANKS to Hugo ,Paulinho and Marcelo. i will prove to the USA that we are the best !!!! My wife Patricia is the best girl ,she is my gold , my san Brian 2 years old ,he help me at all my projets, his the tool guy, i love my family ,god bless us!!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by T3AUDIO: I'm curious if any of the hecklers actually have the money to buy one of these amps?
I'm going to post results of the Stetsom 7KD versus a punch 45 from 1990.
B.T.W. Isn't Stetsom the distributor for DD in Brazil?
i am the distributor in brazil not stetsom, stetsom only help me with the 480 distributors that they have in south america, iam the distributor for power master to. hey jhon best luck for you my friend ,wish you fell better,i like your subs at Devino van they are kicking ass . T3 is a good sub woofers i test and i know what they can do.
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