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Steve, do you have the Voltage and Current output from the amp, I'd like to know what real impedence it was seeing. I also have a couple questions for you but I'll PM you or give you a call at the shop in the next few days. I'm guessing these are the amps Scott Owens told me about at finals. Nice to see Pioneer came through.

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am I seeing this right? does the amp have single 4 gauge power and ground input? i think someone is pulling our leg

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the power and ground fit 0 ga. wire and have a vice type clamp! nice

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who is this Cook guy???

nice sig btw [Smile]

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Finally Pioneer makes a big amp! [Big Grin] How's the power consumption of this thing at full power and idle? If this thing gets cheap I might buy a couple for my caddy [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Tinted:
who is this Cook guy???

nice sig btw [Smile]

You've got to be kidding, right?

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well if it was tested at 16v. this test really benifits the SS and EX competitors. I would like to see what this amp could do in a street setup. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Tinted:
who is this Cook guy???

nice sig btw [Smile]

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Very impressive amp.. we have wait long time to see pioneer coming into the real world of amplifier.

But something is curious...:
But.. it's PWM regulated power supply amplifier.. so what about the test to 16 volts [Confused] .. 11 or 16V should give same result or near that ..noh?

11V = more current draw
16V = less current draw but same power as 11V
Pulse width of power supply oscillator are modulated to compensate voltage loose...

I am wrong?
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I seriously doubt it'd beat a vfl 200.1 running 16v vs the pioneer 12v.

So it must not be that regulated...

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quote:
So it must not be that regulated...
Just see their website: 3000W amp from pioneer

They say:
Independent Rail-Regulating Power Supply (IRRP)
The internal construction also contributes to the units' superior performance. With conventional amplifiers, only the positive rail is truly regulated, causing the negative rail to become unstable during high power demand. The Premier SPL amplifiers feature an independent rail-regulating power supply (IRRP) which takes the positive and negative rail voltages and separately regulates them. This results in unsurpassed reliability and performance.

now.. i say again it's regulated power supply..
And GOOD for Street competitors! [Big Grin]

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x2 on wanting to know what it'll do at 14.4v or less [Big Grin] 3kw RMS is mighty impressive though [Eek!]
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For only about $650 too. I might look into one of these bad boys in the future.
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Im sure you will see this amp in use at SBN by a couple of diff vehicles/competitors...SO COME DOWN AND HAVE A LOOK! [Cool]
BTW: Steve's slightly credible... [Wink]

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it's regulated so it should put out the same at 14v and 12v etc....

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quote:
Originally posted by Team Urban ArtFX:
it's regulated so it should put out the same at 14v and 12v etc....

so how much less does it do on that than 16v-18v is the real Q for people not running higher voltages...

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check out the price tag!

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quote:
Originally posted by Team Urban ArtFX:
it's regulated so it should put out the same at 14v and 12v etc....

Not really, What most people don't understand is that just because it's regulated does not mean it will do the same at 11 volts as it will do at 14+ volts. 1/2 the amps on the market are regulated but what they won't tell you is that the cut off is at 12.5 or 13 volts witch makes it useless for most street guys, so the question is were are the cut offs ?
because after the cut off the power will drop like a rock !

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So why didn't Pioneer just rate the amp all the way down to .5 ohm since it can take that kind of beating???

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quote:
Originally posted by Bassphobia:
So why didn't Pioneer just rate the amp all the way down to .5 ohm since it can take that kind of beating???

Same reason Memphis doesn't rate the Mojo lower than 2ohms, or Orion rating the 2500D at 1ohm.

Because people who didn't know how to properly run it at 0.5ohm would be trying it and Pioneer would get stuck honouring the warrranty.

I can see it now, this amp in a stock Toyota Tercel with an 8g power wire to it and a half ohm load. Bottom line is that engineers need to be a bit generous on specs no matter what they are making.

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You've got my attention Steve. I would like to get my hands on one of these to test. [Wink]

***Forgot to ask, can someone provide me with contact info for someone inside Pioneer/Premier please? Thank you. ***

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is this honestly for serious? or is this some kinda hoax? i'm lookin for new amp/amps.... and this is in my price range....

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Hmmm...Maybe I'll pick up a few of these to play with. That price you can't beat.

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So they look to be pretty sick at 16V but what do they do at 12v vs. the american bass 200.1.
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