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twotwentyfiven
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Over 8 guage what will 4 guage bring me? Will it put less strain on my alt? Will it bring more power equalling louder bass?
Is it worth it?
What can i talk to guy down to on price?
Thanks again
AC

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Well, what are you hooking the 4 guage up to? I went to your SD page... I hope you arn't running that cadence off of 8 guage! If you are, I'm suprised your car hasn't caught fire. If you actually are running F'n EIGHT gauge to that cadence, I think you better re-wire 4 gauge to that thing tonight! I'm suprised it dosn't go into protect. You've got a good ground, that's for sure. Upgrade to 4 gauge. If you've got the cash, run possitive AND negative 4 gauge from the battery. Then you can also do a dual ground in the trunk, or wherever you're grounding now. Don't your wires heat up real bad? I think you'll get a noticable difference with 4 guage, but, it may strain your alt more. I don't know about the alt part.

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or you can get another run of 8 in there which equals more than 4, i never have that problem, i run 1/0 to one HCCA 250r, for intimidation factor ask proaudio150, he can tell ya! if yer asking how, i made my own adapters at work.lol.

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Actually bigger wire should be less resistance, therefore a lesser drain on your alternator. That's why a light bulb works - the high resistance of the coil heats it up and causes it to glow/give off light, and is prevented from simply burning by the gas inside and uses electricity. Same thing in a run of power cable. If more electricity is run through it than it can handle its resistance grows higher and it heats up and eventualy burns through the plastic jacket and starts a fire.

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2 8 gauge does not = 1 4gauge.... just rip out that junk. use it for speaker wire, and get some real wire =)

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quote:
Originally posted by [meph]:
2 8 gauge does not = 1 4gauge.... just rip out that junk. use it for speaker wire, and get some real wire =)

yeah...it actually equals a little less than 4 gauge, but it's fairly close...

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hehe, yeah use it for speaker wire!

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quote:
Originally posted by Honda Accord LX 89:
hehe, yeah use it for speaker wire!

Been There, Done That.

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should i spend 2.50 on 4 guage or 5.00 on new 0/1 guage or should i go with a freinds 0/1 @ $75 for 25 ft. I really only need 15.....
Thanks
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quote:
Originally posted by 87novaman:
Over 8 guage what will 4 guage bring me

well.....u say u only need 15 feet.....so....
15 feet of 8ga is good for about 50 to 80 amps
15 feet of 4ga is good for 150 amps.....
i think u need the 4ga.....if u want....buy your frinds wire.....only if it does not have corosion.....but if u buy the 4ga new...it'll cost less
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YOOO! You need to shop around, alot of places sell good 4 Ga for $1 a foot try the internet or somthing! and you could hear a difference in sound by goin w/ bigger especially if you have a long run and are pulling more than around 50or60 ampsand go to wallmart and get a 30 dollar battery and mount it in the trunk!

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how complicated is a second battery?
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quote:
Originally posted by 87novaman:
how complicated is a second battery?
Thanks
AC

Pretty complicated. Before doing that, I'd suggest cramming the biggest mofo battery you can fit under your hood. You should be able to get close to 1000Cranking Amps under that hood.

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Remember, all this costs $

id upgrade your wiring first
have you upgraded your battery ground wire?

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quote:
Originally posted by SuperInstaller1:
YOOO! You need to shop around, alot of places sell good 4 Ga for $1 a foot try the internet or somthing! and you could hear a difference in sound by goin w/ bigger especially if you have a long run and are pulling more than around 50or60 ampsand go to wallmart and get a 30 dollar battery and mount it in the trunk!


Actually that just gave me an interesting idea. I want to have a battery in the trunk, but the only practical way to do that is to get 2 of the exact same battery so i wouldn't need an isolator. (correct me if i'm wrong).
Would it make sense to go to Wall-Mart and get 2 of those $30 batteries? mount one up front as my starter. Then, put the second one in the trunk and connect my 1/0 gauge wire to it and then from there to my amp?

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quote:
Originally posted by Blunt:


Actually that just gave me an interesting idea. I want to have a battery in the trunk, but the only practical way to do that is to get 2 of the exact same battery so i wouldn't need an isolator. (correct me if i'm wrong).
Would it make sense to go to Wall-Mart and get 2 of those $30 batteries? mount one up front as my starter. Then, put the second one in the trunk and connect my 1/0 gauge wire to it and then from there to my amp?


Yep yep, I think that'd work, but remembr fuses, grounding, and remember that they MUST be dry-cell, becuase you don't want to have anything inside of your vehicle besides a sealed dry-cell. ...eh, I'm having a brain fart... when you use two 12Volt batteries, won't that make the system 6 of 24 Volts depending on how you wire them? Do you NEED an isolator to keep it at 12Volts?

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quote:
Originally posted by Honda Accord LX 89:

Yep yep, I think that'd work, but remembr fuses, grounding, and remember that they MUST be dry-cell, becuase you don't want to have anything inside of your vehicle besides a sealed dry-cell. ...eh, I'm having a brain fart... when you use two 12Volt batteries, won't that make the system 6 of 24 Volts depending on how you wire them? Do you NEED an isolator to keep it at 12Volts?


If you wire it in series it would be 24 v, Paralell would still be 12 volt.

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quote:
Originally posted by loudsubz:

If you wire it in series it would be 24 v, Paralell would still be 12 volt.


thats correst......do it that way

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