I have it hooked to my Alpine IVA-w205 with the Ai-net cable. I don't have the Control unit as I was told I did not need it since the IVA-w205 would control it.
When I hook the front Chanel to the front 1 output it only comes out as tweeter I tried switching the front 1 output to Full range but it has no affect Could I got a bad unit.
Also don't know if this is normal but every time I go to change the cross over or EQ setting's it always shows L/R I have to change it to L+R is this normal.
Also any one have any tips on using this EQ to it fullest. any would using the digital out on the deck to the EQ give me a more noticeable sound difference.
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just reading on alpine's website, and it states that the only models that can control the h701 are the DVA-9861,IVA-D310, DVA-9965, and DVA-9860. Even if you had one of these models, I would strongly suggest purchasing the controller. it would make things a lot easier in my opinion.
as for using the digital out, i would definitely go that route if possible. i have tried using the rca and digital setup, and the digital is a lot better. cleaner and bolder sound
Posts: 36 | From: beckley wv | Registered: Dec 2003
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quote:Originally posted by RAGNAROK: just reading on alpine's website, and it states that the only models that can control the h701 are the DVA-9861,IVA-D310, DVA-9965, and DVA-9860. Even if you had one of these models, I would strongly suggest purchasing the controller. it would make things a lot easier in my opinion.
as for using the digital out, i would definitely go that route if possible. i have tried using the rca and digital setup, and the digital is a lot better. cleaner and bolder sound
Thanks The IVA-W205 will also control the EQ I have it hooked up now with the Ai-net cable. I just got my Digital cable so When i have time i will install it. I WIll post back how it sounds.
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badboy, just checked a couple of resources and they confirmed that the 205 will "not" control the h701. both sources state that you need the c701. if you figure out a way to do it, post it if possible. thanks
here we go..go to page 43 and read the external audio processor info. it states that "the adjustments or settings performed on the connected audio processor(h701 or h700) cannot be operated properly from this unit.
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I can Assure you that it works with the IVA-W205. you stated that only models that can control the h701 are the DVA-9861,IVA-D310, DVA-9965, and DVA-9860. This is not true when the PXA-H701 was released Alpine did not release the new line of Iva deck's so I think they never updated there web page.
Here is what it says in the IVA-W205 Manuel.
When an external audio processor is connected to this unit, you can operate it from this unit. Some audio processors may not be operated. In this case, operate them in the connected product. Explanations below are the case when PXA-H700 or PXA-H701 is connected for example. Refer also to the operating instructions of the connected audio processor. • The adjustments or settings performed on the connected audio processor cannot be operated properly from this unit. • The setting “Setting the Speakers”, “Setting Bass Sound Control”, and “Graphic Equalizer Adjustments” are not available if the MRAD550 is connected. Additionally, if the MRA-F350 is connected, the following setting “Setting the MX mode” is not available. Also, the setting content differs between the PXA-H700 and PXA-H701. • This unit cannot be connected to the PXA-H510 and PXA-H900.
Who ever wrote this Manuel did a poor job of making things clear. It really only says the PXA-H510 and PXA-H900 can not be connected to the IVA-W205 all the rest of the stuff just states what function's will work and wont work with the IVA-W205.
I have read on other forums and people are using the IVA-W205 and the Pxa-h701 also so I know it not just mine.
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The W205 is WAY easier to deal with than the seperate 1-din controller because you get to see exactly what you're doing on the touch screen. I ran mine with a W200 for a year untill the W200 got stolen. I'm about to drop in the 205 and get my system rollin' again.Can't wait... Martin Oh yeah... the other reason it works better is that you can make the adjustments with the touch screen. Just drag things up or down with your finger on the touch screen. You'll see the whole graph on your screen and you can just pick a frequency you'd like to change and drag it up or down on the screen. Definately much easier than using the single din controller.
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quote:Originally posted by mjs: The W205 is WAY easier to deal with than the seperate 1-din controller because you get to see exactly what you're doing on the touch screen. I ran mine with a W200 for a year untill the W200 got stolen. I'm about to drop in the 205 and get my system rollin' again.Can't wait... Martin Oh yeah... the other reason it works better is that you can make the adjustments with the touch screen. Just drag things up or down with your finger on the touch screen. You'll see the whole graph on your screen and you can just pick a frequency you'd like to change and drag it up or down on the screen. Definately much easier than using the single din controller.
It's A nice setup but the IVA-W205 does not Adjust the EQ with a graph. I will try to post a picture of the IVA-W205 using the PXA-h701.
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I called Alpine and spoke to a tech (Robert) about this issue. The 205 does everything the 200 did as far as controlling the 701 with the touchscreen. Some of the screens are slightly different, but it's all still there.This is the way to go if you're running the 701 and have the space for a double din head unit. Badboy-are you sure you've got it hooked up right? The Alpine tech also agreed with me about the 205 being WAY easier to control the 701 than the seperate single din controller you can purchase. You've got the right unit Badboy - I'd call the Alpine tech and have him walk you through it if I were you.The Alpine tech number is 800.832.4101. Once you get this fixed you'll LOVE this set up. What are you running for amps/speakers? Martin P.S. I expect to have my new 205 up and running with my 701 in a few weeks-I'll let you know how it goes.
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quote:Originally posted by mjs: I called Alpine and spoke to a tech (Robert) about this issue. The 205 does everything the 200 did as far as controlling the 701 with the touchscreen. Some of the screens are slightly different, but it's all still there.This is the way to go if you're running the 701 and have the space for a double din head unit. Badboy-are you sure you've got it hooked up right? The Alpine tech also agreed with me about the 205 being WAY easier to control the 701 than the seperate single din controller you can purchase. You've got the right unit Badboy - I'd call the Alpine tech and have him walk you through it if I were you.The Alpine tech number is 800.832.4101. Once you get this fixed you'll LOVE this set up. What are you running for amps/speakers? Martin P.S. I expect to have my new 205 up and running with my 701 in a few weeks-I'll let you know how it goes.
Sorry for not replying sooner been busy working.
I think my pxa-h701 is Broken I still can not get my Front 1 channel to play at full range no mater what it only plays as tweeter's. I hooked up the pxa-h701 with the Digital cable and the same thing still only tweeter's Also everyone i talked to told me I would notice the difference with the Digital cable but it sounds the same no change. Also Right now I am using the Parametric EQ and when I adjust it I don't here a difference. So far the only difference I have heard has been in the sub's they seem to hit harder.
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I would call the tech and be prepared to tell him EXACTLY how you have everything wired. He'll be able to tell you wether it's the way you have it hooked up - the way you have the 205 set - the way you have the 701 set - or that the 701 is f-ed up. Martin
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quote:Originally posted by mjs: I would call the tech and be prepared to tell him EXACTLY how you have everything wired. He'll be able to tell you wether it's the way you have it hooked up - the way you have the 205 set - the way you have the 701 set - or that the 701 is f-ed up. Martin
I already talked to the shop I bought it from and they are going to get me a replacement but it will take a couple of weeks they said because alpine is closed for 2weeks. I am now debating If I want to run the EQ for my set up. I bought the PXA-h701 to tweak my system a little but it looks like i might do more harm to it then good.
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That's the thing about having all that control-if you know what you're doing it's a wonderfull thing - if you don't it enables you to f--- everything up! What vehicle is this system in? Do you really care about sound in the back seat? The reason I'm asking is that with minor changes you could have a really good SQ set up that gets loud too. If you dump the 6 X 9's and concentrate on the front you'll get a much better sound stage and better SQ.Just biamp the Pro's with the 300/4.Use all 4 channels from the 300/4 to run the Pros. One channel to each tweeter and one channel to each mid. Don't use the xover that comes with the Pros. Do your xovers with the 701.Later if you added a 2 channel amp and a pair of midbass drivers you'd be able to control those with the 701 as well. In my opinion it doesn't make sense to run the 701 unless you're running each channel off your amp(s) to a dedicated driver. Do you understand what I'm saying? Martin
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quote:Originally posted by mjs: The W205 is WAY easier to deal with than the seperate 1-din controller because you get to see exactly what you're doing on the touch screen.
i'm confused by your statement. i use the 1-din and it is simple and I am able to see crossover,eq and time alignment settings with no problem. just touch whatever function you want to control and make your adjustments. Before I purchased the c701 controller, i asked alpine tech support if i should purchase the controller and the rep told me that it would be easier to control the h701 unit with the controller, but if you have the patience to learn how to control everything with the head unit, it would save you money and space in your dash.
also, i agree with martin on dumping the 6x9 speakers in the rear. if you are going to use the h701, build a strong front stage, without the passive crossovers, and you will never think about rear fill again
Good luck with the 701
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The w205 and the w200 are different in that the 200 does things by graphs. you can "see" what you are doing. the 205 does things exactly like the controller--with numbers. No graphs. That is the only difference.
You can control all functions of the 701 with the 200 and the 205. You don't need the controller. You can actually use both. I use both in my car. I make big changes on the screen with the 200. Then in fine tuning I hook up my din controller and make changes. That way I'm not leaning forward. It allows me to sit in the listening position without moving my head and make changes. I like that.
On the front 1--first did you flip the switch on the bottom of the HU to "EQ" and not on "norm"? If not, do that. Not having that done will cause you some control issues. Meaning you might not be able to go to full range from tweeter. It does some weird things.
There should be two arrows where you select tweeter/full range/off. Try going both directions. It is a cycle, so if you get caught in a weird spot it may not let you move one direction. hard to explain, but just try it.
use the optical cable. It will help eliminate any floor noise you may have. Don't forget to turn "on" the optical output on the HU setup. Otherwise you will still be using the ai-net even with the optical hooked up.
Go through all of the menus and turn off everything else before you get started. the media expander, etc. , is all set to "on" when the unit is first used. You need to turn that stuff off to really start tuning.
Using the EQ--that is totally dependent on the system and the user's knowledge of using an EQ. No way to explain that over the internet.
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i know this post is old but it fits what i was looking for so ill bring it back up. i have had a pxa-h510 sitting new in a box collecting dust for 2 years now. i am finally getting around to using it and was going to use my other old school alpine gem cda-7995 when a friend of mine pulled out a iva-w200 still sitting unwrapped. i jumped on the opportunity to get the unit and should be installing both next week. does anyone have experience with the h510? the vehicle is an oddball, walled off 1992 geo tracker (dont ask, they are tanks with 4x4 and 25 mpg) but it isnt an spl vehicle. i built this "toy" as something to fit along the Psychlone format that wayne made. i mainly run meca and at the carl casper even i ran sq, driveby, and spl for fun to see how the total system did. my sq score wasnt terrible considering a 6th order single 18" driver was used for spl and turned down for sq (still an overbearing output but the judges kinda liked it) and as a wall it was all front stage. i used my older sony deck with the burr-brown and 7 band eq but no time correction. main complaints were depth and i was a hair left of center (im slight hearing loss in left ear so having only balance to work with i faded it 2 to the right and it sounds centered to me lol). the 701 unit is perfect for me but out of budget for this season but the 510 is sitting and wanting to get in the game. any suggestions with the 510 as far as used experience?
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quote:Originally posted by chris l.: i know this post is old but it fits what i was looking for so ill bring it back up. i have had a pxa-h510 sitting new in a box collecting dust for 2 years now. i am finally getting around to using it and was going to use my other old school alpine gem cda-7995 when a friend of mine pulled out a iva-w200 still sitting unwrapped. i jumped on the opportunity to get the unit and should be installing both next week. does anyone have experience with the h510? the vehicle is an oddball, walled off 1992 geo tracker (dont ask, they are tanks with 4x4 and 25 mpg) but it isnt an spl vehicle. i built this "toy" as something to fit along the Psychlone format that wayne made. i mainly run meca and at the carl casper even i ran sq, driveby, and spl for fun to see how the total system did. my sq score wasnt terrible considering a 6th order single 18" driver was used for spl and turned down for sq (still an overbearing output but the judges kinda liked it) and as a wall it was all front stage. i used my older sony deck with the burr-brown and 7 band eq but no time correction. main complaints were depth and i was a hair left of center (im slight hearing loss in left ear so having only balance to work with i faded it 2 to the right and it sounds centered to me lol). the 701 unit is perfect for me but out of budget for this season but the 510 is sitting and wanting to get in the game. any suggestions with the 510 as far as used experience?
I had the 510 until just recently upgrading to the 701. The 510 is a very nice unit. It deffentley is user friendly and has a lot of options.
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