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WOW is all I can say. It was very easy to put in and very easy to tune.
Ok, this is what is hooked up -
I am running my rear speakers ( Crossfire 5x7's Convertable Series ) off the head unit's "rear" going into the "rear" of a Crossfire 4 Channel Amp ( Crossfire 404 )
I am running my door speakers and kick panels off the front of my headunit using "Y" adapters into the front and rear input of the Rockford 360. The rear output of the 360 is going to my door speakers( Pioneer Kevlar 6x8's ). This goes to the other half of the Crossfire 404 ( 4 Channel )
The front output of the 360 goes to a Crossfire 302 2 channel amp running a set of Memphis SQ series 5.25 componants.
Why did I do all this? Well, I don't like rear fill unless I'm listening to a 5.1 movie. This way I can fade the head unit to the front when I want to experience sound quality. Everything up front is off the front signal of the head unit this way.
At first when I hooked things up I had issues ( wireing, left and right, etc. ). I had HORRIBLE noise. I thought it was a ground issue. I re-grounded the 360 to another location. Still had noise. Come to find out, I had the gains on the amps CRANKED!. I backed off the gains to 0 and turned the gains up on the 360. The noise went away. Then I fixed a "Y" adapter problem I had which took care of my left and right issue.
So then I through it on an RTA. EEEEk! Not a pretty curve at all. So I gave it a good curve, no real big dips or drops. Then I sat in it ... EEEEK! again!. So then I took my time.
First, I unhooked completly the rear speakers. Don't need them anyways . Then I turned off the door speakers via the 360. I listened to 3 different SQ Cd's ( all Usaci Test CD's ). I got it the way I wanted it to sound. Then I shut off the kick panels and just listend the the doors.
Needless to say that the Pioneer 6x8's WAXED the Memphis SQ 5.25's. WOW, big difference in sound. So now I'm in the market for new 5.25's .
I got the door speakers to sound just the way I wanted then I listened to both the doors and the kicks. I did a little more tweeking and tuning.
I then got to listening to the Left, Right and Center test sections. My "center" was deffinatly on the left hand side. So I figured out how to the "distance" feature on the 360. I was able to move the center to "center". ( Well, on the drivers side listening position that is )
So I listened some more, tweeked some more then I pluged in the rear 5x7's to get the full 5.1 surround effect. Now I'm good to go.
I would however like to meet up with a SQ dude to get them to listen to it and help tweek and tune on it somemore. I am missing midbass BAD! I plan on adding a front downfiring sub just for SQ effect. The 4-12's behind the seat are plenty, but not for SQ .
So next time you see me, ask to sit in it and take a listen!
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dBSteve Get Loud Productions LLC Posts: 8598 | From: Midwest | Registered: Aug 2000
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quote:Originally posted by assman: Sounds like alot of work.But im sure its well worth it in the long run.You need to enter it in the sq part of a usaci show and see how you do.
it wouldnt do very well in the install class . No pictures plus the wiring "behind the scenes" is a mess!
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dBSteve Get Loud Productions LLC Posts: 8598 | From: Midwest | Registered: Aug 2000
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quote:Originally posted by E-40: I thought about picking up a 360.two for my new vehicle....are you happy with the unit itself...?
VERY HAPPY. It made a world of differnce in sound. That and I adjusted the delay so that now I have somewhat a center channel now ( or a center position voice ).
The 360 makes it easy to tweek and tune your equipment also. You can adjust the gains of the amps as well as turn off each individual speaker to adjust it how you see fit.
Its also nice having a 13 band eq just for your subs ( I think its 13?? ).
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dBSteve Get Loud Productions LLC Posts: 8598 | From: Midwest | Registered: Aug 2000
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You need to do phasing before you use any delays.
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quote:Originally posted by winslow: You need to do phasing before you use any delays.
yeah ... wanna come show me how to do that
I dont have the "perfect" SQ set up. Delays was a quick fix.
I think I would be willing to pay someone to come and set the vehicle up correctly for me. OR I would be willing to travel and let someone do it for FREE
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dBSteve Get Loud Productions LLC Posts: 8598 | From: Midwest | Registered: Aug 2000
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Basically you need a disk that has a voice recorded in phase and out of phase...there are a few floating around- I even think there is a track like that on a Bass Mekanik disk.
You need to turn off all speakers but a pair, start with the midranges. Listen to those, and then change the phase of one of the drivers, see if the voices gell in one point. When you get them as close as possible, turn them off and move on to the tweeters. Do the same. Now, turn them both back on and listen again. Adjust until they gell as close as possible.
Do this without any EQ or delays.
For the back speakers, I would try the L+R method of wiring first. Wire the positive of the left channel to the positive of the left speaker, then wire the negative of the left speaker to the postive of the right speaker. Then, wire the negative of the right speaker to the negative of the right channel. Basically you just created the first version of Pro Logic surround sound. It will be mono, and difuse, and add more ambience to the front rather than have a whole rear stage. You can experiment with reversing the phase of those too. The couple of cars that I have done that in sounded best with the rear out of phase with the front...it really widen up the stage.
Then you should play with the delays to get it all solidified. Play something like a snare drum track, and get the snap and the body of the drum to align up together.
If you are ever at a show out here in the east, I'll be glad to help out however I can.
-------------------- Team Image Dynamics/Zapco/Werewolf/JK Lab Team Kinetik Sick Bastard Audio SQ Who feels it knows it Posts: 7993 | From: Charlotte,NC USA | Registered: May 1999
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quote:Originally posted by Meade916: as a fellow member of the Steve club, i say yes
you will love it.
Steve, one of the question I have is, would the 360.2 have a sufficient input by only using the front output and not the rear output from my stock player? By the way my wife's expedition did not come with a factory subwoofer. Or would I have to feed the 360.2 both the front and rear output of the Stock player?
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