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i know of only a very few Single peice units that can opperate as a Crossover, EQ, Phase alignment processor. So lets hear what everyone suggests and or has used. good points bad points welcome. and for reference i want the ID-One but i dont have 2000 bux laying around to spend so keep it reasonable.
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For equipment that is actually out right now the Pioneer DEQ-P9 is nice but it is around 800-900 dollars and you need the headunit to go with it. For 1000 dollars you could pick up the ODR stuff that cln has for sale, HU, EQ, crossover...
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I used to have a premier p1r, which is good. Then I sold it to get an ODR system, and I sold it be I needed cash. It was the best system I ever had! The only downside was the headunit screen: sometimes, some pixels made a row side to side the screen. The only other downside was the big remote. I've never found a place to install it.
I loved the selectable 0 to -36db/oct. slope.
Now, I have a nak cd45z, and I just bought an epx2 with a 28band eq. I'm sure I'll like it but the downside is the slope: only -12db/oct.
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Alpine 7949 -> Orion DEQ30 -> Alpine PRA-H400 = All fiber optic. Short RCAs to the amps and you have Two sets each of L/R low,medium,high and can double that with a pair of PRA-H400s. 7949 controls teh PRA from the front. Man they made good stuff in 1999. Can be had now for $1200 or less easily if you can find the DEQ cheap enough. You can also run a 7969 to the PRA or just drop the big bills and get the 7990 and PRA-H900 - F1-Status Setup.
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Well, I've had a chance to play with the ODR (for a friend who bought one and I acted as a middleman to ship it to Europe), the Sony XES (John Durbin has one of these, as does Gary Biggs, and a few others) and the Clarion ADCS-1. I think the ODR is probably the most versatile, the ADCS-1 the best sounding, and the XES has some of the nicest features. They occasionally all come on ebay.
At this point, I have 1 Sony XES, 2 ADCS-1 and have a ODR (the original one) on the way I think. Not sure what I would pick if I could only chose one. The DEQ230 can be used with the XES system.
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Ok guys i can pick up a PG titanium DEQ for around 750, The Orion DEQ230 for around 800(although i wish to stay away from orion for personal reasons with me and the company) or the RF EPX for around 600 not many other ONE peice units will function as Xover EQ and Phase alignment tool. my install requires basically ONE unit unless the 3 units can be cramed into a very very (and i mean like 0.0 cubic foot) small space. thats why i want a one peice unit.
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SlashMcGirk, it depend of what you need: The Orion doesn't have any crossover in it, and the PG has either a low or a high pass crossover, but only ONE output, so if you need crossover forget these unit. If you want time alignment, only the PG has it, (RF EPX2 can have it with a DSP card but it's rare).
The PG and Orion are fully digital, but not the EPX2.
So I can't give you my opinion since I don't know what you really need.
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Slash: I've seen the DEQ on ebay for less than $400.
Ntense: How can something with only two outputs have time alignment? It would only be able to delay one or the other I would imagine.
I would look into getting the ODR on sale here if its available. It does everything you need and is much nicer to play with than the other three mentioned (the PG needs a laptop, and a crossover. The Orion means you will have to bury your head in the trunk to change settings (or modify it to move controls up front) and the EPX means you have to find somewhere to mount another display/controller that is 1.5 DIN). The ODR only has one head unit, has built in time delay and more. Probably the best for the money (considering the other three would require dropping cash on a quality CD player).
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There was a review for the DEX/EQ-P9 in one of the mags this week. I was worried that you could only operate it 4-way, but you can do 2 or3-way. 31 band seperate channel EQ, changeable x-over slopes, and time alignment. I want it. You can get it on E-bay for $1,430. I have heard that you can get it authorized for that. I would definitely go authorized on something this expensive. I want it.
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Well the Alpine Orion setup can be built for pretty cheap and you can do it one piece at a time and will give you pretty much everything and then some.
It was mentioned you cannot control the DEQ30 from the front - which should be OK. This is not a beginner piece and is not a 7 band bassboost piece. It also has 4 presets so you can make four different settings and change them relatively quickly before shows.
The PRA-H400 is fully controllable from the front via a nice Alpine HU. They also make a controller for iot if you can find one. Gives you a crossover for low,mid,high for the front and another 3 settings for teh rear. Also has option for adding two units for greater flexability. Also has time and tone control for all 6 sets of channels as if you needed them (12 sets with two).
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Well sounds like i need the ODR or the new premier Dex9 or whatever model with eq so........ DIG ME UP SOME CHEAP lol running outa cash for all this stuff. And by the way im in a truck extened cab. so the EQ isnt gonna be far away enough to worry bout mounting location for changing settings. i just want one single( unless its Deck/outboard unit combo) unit to mount that does full EQ xover and phase alignment. ID-One needs to hurry the F*ck up and come out cause that looks to me like the mackdaddy of Eq's. Any authorized pioneer dealers who can get me that new Deck/EQ combo for dealer or close????? do you accept VISA?
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Um, that Clarion isn't in the same league as the ODR, ADCS-1, and XES...I have an ODR system and have played with that Clarion unit you are talking about...it is nice, but not the same...
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quote:Originally posted by winslow: Um, that Clarion isn't in the same league as the ODR, ADCS-1, and XES...I have an ODR system and have played with that Clarion unit you are talking about...it is nice, but not the same...
cool, thanks for the input. that answers some part of my recent posting on this forum.
at what price ranges are the odr, adcs-1, etc cost?
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XES goes for about $600-800 depending on what it comes with and condition.
ADCS-1. About the same.
ODR. That depends. It's got a few options (amps, controllers, eqs, etc.). I've seen one here for $1000. A friend is selling one for $1800, but it includes a bunch of amps too. It really depends.
As far as that Clarion DSP (9100), I don't know about you, but its like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
quote:Originally posted by winslow: But the 7949 is a horrible deck...especially if you want to play burned CD and CDRWs.
And you could get the ODR system for the same price and have more flexibility.
My 7949 was manufactured May 1999 and plays CD-Rs with no problems at all - even my old burns work fine.
The LCD when the light hits it is very very dark - hard to see in sunlight. Man at night it sure is pretty! My Jeep has a shade like dash so it still is pretty good in sunlight.
Horrible is a little harsh for one of Alpine's best HU's ever made. And for about $300 you can't go wrong with it. SQ is awesome and no distortion at all or clipping even at very high volumes.
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Ok thanks for all the help guys but since originally posting this they advertised and tested the DEX and DEQ P9 which is what ill be getting before the year is out. ill also pick up a p1r for other install im doing. Donations to the Slash is F*kin broke fund will be accepted through paypall and money order. Give generously
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Juan- a knife to a gun fight? More like a spoon to a bazooka war...
I hated the 7949, it would not play a burned CD...all of the 7949s that I have played with had that problem, but most were early versions and maybe Alpine fixed that problem.
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Of course a guy could just step up to the pump and go with the F#1 Status. Guns and bazookas....lets talk nuclear. I havent even been able to find a vehicle worthy of putting our demo in. But the price....go ahead pump 9!
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