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The 14v limit in Street and Street MAX is working real well. Maybe this should go up to cover SS as well? Like make the voltage we have to run at suitable for cars. This is the biggest area of the rule book, where it contradicts itself. We are supposed to run audio equipment designed for 12v auto audio, yet a rack of 2v cells at 18 volts is not 12v....
And the frequency!!! please come on, the gap is growing every year between a winning car playing at 80Hz, and a street boomer. Even if it was brought down to 60Hz, we would have a chance of playing some semi musical bass to the crouds at the shows.... I bet show promotors would like that....
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Well i don´t mind if we get 12V in Extreme to, BUT if I had an big 16V bank in my car then I would have been pissed of if they were ruled illeagal....
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The change of voltage in SS and EXT is a dangerously touchy subject. Just like quads were a touchy subject. I'm people wouldn't mind, but I'm sure too many people have too much money wrapped up in the batteries and manufacturers regularly produce 2V, 6V and 8V batteries.
I do agree that the frequency needs to be brought down a bit more. I think 60hz sounds great!
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I'll let you tell my teammate who has 96 8v batteries then. Seriously, you can't ban 16v, not now, it's way too late.
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Can he buy 96 4v batts, then instead of him having 48 x 16 volters, he can have 96 x 12 volters
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why dose it really matter what the fre. is 100 or 60 i dont see the big deal If you chane it that going to give the people that have there **** tuned to 60 the upper hand. My car wont do anyhying under 77hz. I have changed the cab the box everything. And 16 its more like 18 but I dont care if they drop it it would make thing intersting.
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i think say 60hz for street class's is a good idea its the only way i can see to stop crap heap pandas and crx's winning everything i`m sure a panda wouldn't win every thing if 60hz was brought in
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quote:Originally posted by Broken Silence CC - Johnny: NO, because he already has them.
re read the above post, geoff is sayin buy 96 4v to go with the 96 8v to make 96 12 volts, but i agree 16v should stay!!!
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something you must remember about SUPER STREET Straight from WAYNE I was told SUPER STREET is a crossover between classes{street and extreme} cab stock like street behind B pillar it is and can be just like EXTREME. so if you change the voltage limits then you will have to change them in extreme too!!!
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Cut the crap, and keep the rules as they are. Just clear out the may's and maybe's. No need for bringing down the frequency.
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quote:Originally posted by neilneil: i`m sure a panda wouldn't win every thing if 60hz was brought in [/QB]
I'm sure they do! I have a friend with a SSNW panda and he burps at 53 Hz!
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quote:Originally posted by firestarter: The 14v limit in Street and Street MAX is working real well. Maybe this should go up to cover SS as well? Like make the voltage we have to run at suitable for cars. This is the biggest area of the rule book, where it contradicts itself. We are supposed to run audio equipment designed for 12v auto audio, yet a rack of 2v cells at 18 volts is not 12v....
And the frequency!!! please come on, the gap is growing every year between a winning car playing at 80Hz, and a street boomer. Even if it was brought down to 60Hz, we would have a chance of playing some semi musical bass to the crouds at the shows.... I bet show promotors would like that....
No... not now...
and what if 14v and 60hz limitter would go on next year? It would only limit creativity as there aren't so many areas to work with... and soon this sport would became boring
16v batteries aren't so hard to make... You could do 16v batteries from normal 12v batteries...
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A big powerful set-up of 16 volts was cheaper for us to buy than a big powerful 12 volt set-up.
A 60hz cap in Street doesnt bring daily cars into the game, that would have to be a 50hz cap.
And 50hz is way below most cars RF, all you are doing is taking the advantage away from some high RF cars and giving it to low RF cars.
And even if daily cars were closer to winning than they are now, they would still get beat by dB Draggers because they wont be running the same power, low loads, peaky boxes etc.
If you want daily cars to be competitve have a sub 50hz Mini Street class.
But then there isnt enough cars to spread around the classes as it is, its not as if the brackets are bursting at every event.
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Freq limit in street sounds good. Battery limit, yeah it sounds good but so many have so much involved in their 16volts it doesn't really make sense and I don't see it being a big issue. I think with Street Max now, people who don't want to go up against 16volts don't have to. My 2 cents.
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quote:Originally posted by neilneil: street thou in my eyes meens street/every day cars not pandas playing 78hz 60hz puts a more realistic normal system in with a better chance
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Im with the 60 hz idea too. I did some listening to tones above 60 and then to some rap on the radio and on cd, didnt here anything with notes that high and nasty. So wouldnt a street set-up be intended for the music of today. I always get asked what does this sound like in there and stuff like that. Im tuned to 53 hz for spl so I miss out on some of the lower bass songs, but for the mostpart I can hang in there and play just about everything. I usually try to find some current music (less than 2-3 months old) that hammers around the port freq just to demo for the locals and keep the business coming to me. I dont think I would ever gain a single customer by playing anything like 77 hz even if I could claim the WR. Im sure this would hurt the guys with pandas in the short run but they would be able to find another comparable car over there. They already have the equipment, if its anythinglike over here the cars the cheap part!! Sub 50 hz would take a little more work but it would for everybody else too, so I could live with that.
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quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: cap on frequency wont help. The loudest car still wins.
Yes, but the winner will actually be able to LISTEN to his CAR STEREO, without it sounding so jank, 60Hz is much more friendly.
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