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I say a 155.0. To many street cars that can break the 150 mark.
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what about the local kid who's competing for his first time ever who happens to be working on his vehicle and has a door panel off cause he's making new fiberglass ones.
This new kid can barely break a 135, but because of his mod, we have to put him into Extreme. If there is a dB limit for this class this newbie wont be able to compete.
Ok, any more ideas?
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quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: what about the local kid who's competing for his first time ever who happens to be working on his vehicle and has a door panel off cause he's making new fiberglass ones.
This new kid can barely break a 135, but because of his mod, we have to put him into Extreme. If there is a dB limit for this class this newbie wont be able to compete.
Ok, any more ideas?
the minimum spl requirement we are talking about is for points only. If there is a new kid doing a 135 that is "temporarily in Extreme" i dont think he will be concerned with getting points for World Finals. ....Although he shouldnt be placed in Extreme anyway because the judge used the "Extreme Vehicle Qualifications Checklist" and realized the new kid didnt have atleast 3 of the required vehicle modifications for Extreme classification.
quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: what about the local kid who's competing for his first time ever who happens to be working on his vehicle and has a door panel off cause he's making new fiberglass ones.
This new kid can barely break a 135, but because of his mod, we have to put him into Extreme. If there is a dB limit for this class this newbie wont be able to compete.
Ok, any more ideas?
the minimum spl requirement we are talking about is for points only. If there is a new kid doing a 135 that is "temporarily in Extreme" i dont think he will be concerned with getting points for World Finals. ....Although he shouldnt be placed in Extreme anyway because the judge used the "Extreme Vehicle Qualifications Checklist" and realized the new kid didnt have atleast 3 of the required vehicle modifications for Extreme classification.
The only problem with that is, then it would be ok for a Super Street competitor to remove his door panels, cause he didn't meet the Extreme requirements. But I guess we're also talking about points if you qualify and no points if you don't. But there is really no way to do this with the termlab software.
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dBSteve Get Loud Productions LLC Posts: 8435 | From: Midwest | Registered: Aug 2000
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at some point we need to break down and tell these people "too bad" YOU violated the rules... (wheter it be adding a 2 dollar brace , takeing the golve box off, etc)
just my .02
and as far as a db or battery limit, no way, everyone knows who is extreme and who isnt. if you take your door panels off your not extreme, your disqualified because your in superstreet , or street ! end of discussion !
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quote:Originally posted by pipebomb: and as far as a db or battery limit, no way, everyone knows who is extreme and who isnt. if you take your door panels off your not extreme, your disqualified because your in superstreet , or street ! end of discussion !
you know, I have always believed this way. You basically tell the competitor, " Sorry, I dont' have a class for you "
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dBSteve Get Loud Productions LLC Posts: 8435 | From: Midwest | Registered: Aug 2000
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quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: what about the local kid who's competing for his first time ever who happens to be working on his vehicle and has a door panel off cause he's making new fiberglass ones.
This new kid can barely break a 135, but because of his mod, we have to put him into Extreme. If there is a dB limit for this class this newbie wont be able to compete.
Ok, any more ideas?
the minimum spl requirement we are talking about is for points only. If there is a new kid doing a 135 that is "temporarily in Extreme" i dont think he will be concerned with getting points for World Finals. ....Although he shouldnt be placed in Extreme anyway because the judge used the "Extreme Vehicle Qualifications Checklist" and realized the new kid didnt have atleast 3 of the required vehicle modifications for Extreme classification.
This looks like a good idea! Im sure that wayne can add a field to allow this and another which would allow you to input car type/liscence plate etc.
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quote:Originally posted by Fortunz: Hmmmm just wonderin k go to my stats look at the only show I did this season and look at the results. Pay attention to the classes
All I see is a bunch of loud big dogs beating the little guys by 5-10 dB.
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bring back mini-street and we won't have to worry about the kids with their doors off
BTW..Blake you are weak!!
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Yea avogel i am saying that with these new rules i would not be allowed to compete which is what we are trying to accomplish here. Its funny cause my car is one of the cars that brought all this up cause i have accdently put 4 layers of dynamat on my front doors. So yes do not let me compete till i do a 160(shouldnt be too long if u really want to know)!!! Thanks for asking...
Blake aka-LILMAN
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Keeping people from competing is what we are trying to accomplish?? I am all for keeping people from point chasing in extreme. I just dont think it should be at the expense of possible new extreme competitors. Right now there are 3 guys in Extreme 1 that have yet to prove that they can do a 160 in that class. All 3 are 1st year extreme competitors. I think there are other ways of eliminating point chasing without db limitations.
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Steve, one thing you can always do for the local kids is if they are not a member of db Drag then let them enter in the normal street class. If they are a member of dB drag, then make them run in the class they are qualified to be in. They are a member, they should know the rules. But you cannot allow members to do points chasing though. They cant show up and be like I took my panel off to replace something for 9 events in 9 weeks. I do understand the 1 time deal when they do have a problem with their door. Just a thought. Also with Usaci, make non db drag pay 5 bucks more.
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quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: Should there be a SPL limit in extreme to qualify for extreme?
Absolutely! Like I suggested yesterday, if you dont do a minimum of 150dB in an Extreme class...you dont get the points accrued toward finals. That would put a quick stop to points chasing in Extreme class. ( and yes, im definately guilty of that this year even though i didnt like doing it.)....i just couldnt afford to "buy" a jacket
or maybe even a 160db minimum??
For us it`s hard to make it to almost every show in our area with our extreme car. It`s a long process to load up on the trailer as you seen so we use a points car to compete when we don`t have time to load it up. Sometimes we can`t get off of work in time or our car is toren apart in the garage, plus the cost for us to go to every show with an extreme car is at least $80 CDN for 2hrs of driving. We pay for everything in that car, no sponcers at all!! When we go to shows with our points car we wait until we are one of the last cars to drag and the show promoter puts us in the class he chooses. Sometimes he puts us in street if he needs to have any filled or he knows we need points for extreme and and we get put in extreme and we get second. But thats fine to us it`s all in good fun. We hate beeting kids with our daily driver, it only makes then feel bad, and it drives them away. I think we have good intensions for dbdrag.
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quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: Should there be a SPL limit in extreme to qualify for extreme?
Absolutely! Like I suggested yesterday, if you dont do a minimum of 150dB in an Extreme class...you dont get the points accrued toward finals. That would put a quick stop to points chasing in Extreme class. ( and yes, im definately guilty of that this year even though i didnt like doing it.)....i just couldnt afford to "buy" a jacket
or maybe even a 160db minimum??
For us it`s hard to make it to almost every show in our area with our extreme car. It`s a long process to load up on the trailer as you seen so we use a points car to compete when we don`t have time to load it up. Sometimes we can`t get off of work in time or our car is toren apart in the garage, plus the cost for us to go to every show with an extreme car is at least $80 CDN for 2hrs of driving. We pay for everything in that car, no sponcers at all!! When we go to shows with our points car we wait until we are one of the last cars to drag and the show promoter puts us in the class he chooses. Sometimes he puts us in street if he needs to have any filled or he knows we need points for extreme and and we get put in extreme and we get second. But thats fine to us it`s all in good fun. We hate beeting kids with our daily driver, it only makes then feel bad, and it drives them away. I think we have good intensions for dbdrag.
I understand the intentions of putting you in whatever class he wants to make it easier for locals but if you compete in a class the car does not qualify for I see it as cheating. I think that if you need points in your extreme car then you need to have the extreme car at the show. You only NEED 50 POINTS in the extreme car to go to finals in it. You can have the rest of the points in a street class and be totally legal. If the judge puts you in extreme because you need extreme points then did your car actually get the 50 points it needed to go to finals? This is why we also need to be able to track what cars actually attend shows.
After looking at your stats it looks like you brought the extreme car out and got 88 points with it this season and the rest with your points chase car. I just don't think you should have been bumped up just to make a better day for locals.
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all competiters are tracked, get points regardless if they are a dbdrag member or not,that way if they get the spl fever they might come back and compete ib dbdrag,to many changes ea season is to confusing,
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the rules for extreme dash are very well layed out, i think if a car has a stock interior, stock dash, and stock headliner, then it does not meet extreme requirements.
rules say you have to have a dash in extreme, so in order to compete in extreme why not make the points chasers "extreme" car meet the extreme credentials? as in the dash between 6 - 16'' flat all the way across no pockets etc....and since most factory dashes have vents and speakers that should be considered a pocket and they should be moved into monster or unlimited.
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