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quote:Originally posted by Team_DD_Peter: Somebody gave me this link for the first matrix of the prelimenary rules . It says unlimited amps in street classes .
I dont like this , why cant we keep it just like 2004 . I thought there where no rule changes . This is making street MUCH more expencive .
If there would be some changes i thought it would be something like clarrification on OEM stuff . Gray area's . .....
lifting the amp limit is a way to solve the 2 amps in 1 case problem , but this is surrely not the way to do it .
Hope there can still be some discution about this , this is the thing i never wanted to see .
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If these are true, Max is getting stricter and NW isnt in line with the rest of SS, its total BS.
Give NW floor chops, battery boxes and a full 18V.
People without those items will be more than competitive in the new Street Max.
SS is SS, NW isnt fully SS.
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quote:Originally posted by Team_DD_Peter: Somebody gave me this link for the first matrix of the prelimenary rules . It says unlimited amps in street classes .
I dont like this , why cant we keep it just like 2004 . I thought there where no rule changes . This is making street MUCH more expencive .
If there would be some changes i thought it would be something like clarrification on OEM stuff . Gray area's . .....
lifting the amp limit is a way to solve the 2 amps in 1 case problem , but this is surrely not the way to do it .
Hope there can still be some discution about this , this is the thing i never wanted to see .
how is street getting more expensive? you are still limited on conductors
How many amps can be run of 2 conductors ?
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quote:Originally posted by Team_DD_Peter: Somebody gave me this link for the first matrix of the prelimenary rules . It says unlimited amps in street classes .
I dont like this , why cant we keep it just like 2004 . I thought there where no rule changes . This is making street MUCH more expencive .
If there would be some changes i thought it would be something like clarrification on OEM stuff . Gray area's . .....
lifting the amp limit is a way to solve the 2 amps in 1 case problem , but this is surrely not the way to do it .
Hope there can still be some discution about this , this is the thing i never wanted to see .
quote:Originally posted by Mr Bump: If these are true, Max is getting stricter and NW isnt in line with the rest of SS, its total BS.
Give NW floor chops, battery boxes and a full 18V.
People without those items will be more than competitive in the new Street Max.
SS is SS, NW isnt fully SS.
NW is excatly the same as last year(2004)
Yes, identical.
But its still not SS.
SM is now for cars in between Street ans Super Street.
NW should be full SS, floor chops/battery boxes.
-------------------- Ben ----- www.EastCoastChoons.co.uk UK SS 1-2 NW Record Holder Team UK - Team ECC - Team RE - Team DD Posts: 2956 | From: Deepest Darkest Norfolk | Registered: Aug 2002
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quote:Originally posted by Team_DD_Peter: Somebody gave me this link for the first matrix of the prelimenary rules . It says unlimited amps in street classes .
I dont like this , why cant we keep it just like 2004 . I thought there where no rule changes . This is making street MUCH more expencive .
If there would be some changes i thought it would be something like clarrification on OEM stuff . Gray area's . .....
lifting the amp limit is a way to solve the 2 amps in 1 case problem , but this is surrely not the way to do it .
Hope there can still be some discution about this , this is the thing i never wanted to see .
how is street getting more expensive? you are still limited on conductors
How many amps can be run of 2 conductors ?
2 strappable amps or 1 non strappable
One Crown or two SPL D 6000Ds.
Nice and cheap.
-------------------- Ben ----- www.EastCoastChoons.co.uk UK SS 1-2 NW Record Holder Team UK - Team ECC - Team RE - Team DD Posts: 2956 | From: Deepest Darkest Norfolk | Registered: Aug 2002
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quote:Originally posted by Team_DD_Peter: Somebody gave me this link for the first matrix of the prelimenary rules . It says unlimited amps in street classes .
I dont like this , why cant we keep it just like 2004 . I thought there where no rule changes . This is making street MUCH more expencive .
If there would be some changes i thought it would be something like clarrification on OEM stuff . Gray area's . .....
lifting the amp limit is a way to solve the 2 amps in 1 case problem , but this is surrely not the way to do it .
Hope there can still be some discution about this , this is the thing i never wanted to see .
how is street getting more expensive? you are still limited on conductors
How many amps can be run of 2 conductors ?
2 strappable amps or 1 non strappable
One Crown or two SPL D 6000Ds.
Nice and cheap.
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Oh now the newcommers are poring in , they will be waiting in line .
Who was the guy that wanted 8 T3000 for street C ?
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wow wow slow down, unlimited amps and conductor rule all together??? thats giving an even more advantage to those with big $$$$. if this stays we gonna have a very broad line between those who can afford a crown or 4kw and those who cant. I dont know if thats a proper way to determines who wins and who looses.
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yah well conductor rule is easily avoidable if u go with a crown or any version of the strappable spl dynamics amps
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quote:Originally posted by Tinted: yah well conductor rule is easily avoidable if u go with a crown or any version of the strappable spl dynamics amps
Steve did hint/mention limiting strapping/steroing of amps.
If that comes in its a bit better.
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Little example : 1 ext 6000 drm is 2 modified ext 2000 , 2 ext 6000 can be strapt . So 2 for street A , 4 for street B and 8 for street C . Ok battery limit . Dousnt mean the amps have to be at full power , it will run , look at the crown , street A ,this year . It would never be possible , it has been proven otherwise .
Another question , CEA 2006 rating ?? This year unlimited amps , next year power limit , lets say 3000 watt street A . Hmmm 1 amp to much . Street C 10 kw . Then people have 4 amps to much . First let them byu lots of amps to sell them next year because most likly the CEA rating will be used .
What happend to the part " NO RULE CHANGES " !!
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I have to agree with Tinted, unlimited amps, thats fine, I can totally see how that would level the playing field, even though I don't really agree with that anymore either. But limiting the conductor rule will just make even more people go away, you are then saying that you can only use 2000+ watt amps that are strapable further eliminating more and more equipment and forcing people to once again revamp their entire system.
I also think that you will be making the most expensive org. even more expensive causing more and more to ask themselves why do I do this. It would be alot easier to just keep doing like was and do away with amps that are made to circumvent the rules. My 2 cents. I for one am about to say forget it if this happens either unlimted with no conductor rule or don't do it, I say just LEAVE THE RULES THE SAME, like was originally proposed. These changes would be huge.
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quote: Who was the guy that wanted 8 T3000 for street C ?
Right here pal, and don't think I won't!
I know
If it leaves me no other choice i will do that to , but then i would have a SS install , and i can better do SS .
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quote:Originally posted by Team_DD_Peter: Little example : 1 ext 6000 drm is 2 modified ext 2000 , 2 ext 6000 can be strapt . So 2 for street A , 4 for street B and 8 for street C . Ok battery limit . Dousnt mean the amps have to be at full power , it will run , look at the crown , street A ,this year . It would never be possible , it has been proven otherwise .
Another question , CEA 2006 rating ?? This year unlimited amps , next year power limit , lets say 3000 watt street A . Hmmm 1 amp to much . Street C 10 kw . Then people have 4 amps to much . First let them byu lots of amps to sell them next year because most likly the CEA rating will be used .
What happend to the part " NO RULE CHANGES " !!
Havnt you heard, the 6000Ds are getting reworked, they will no longer be "modded" 2000Ds.
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