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Today I got home from school and the cops were at my house accusing me of stealing a system. It was the box I just built for a buddy of mine. Some one told him that I stole it,. because I wanted it back or something stupid like that. So after they surched my garage and my sheds they said oh sorry and left, I was mad now I have to go clean my stuff up that was thrown all over. OH WELL
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geez, yeah, i'd be pissed too... i feel you're pain, man. similar thing happened to me too, but it was really kinda my fault. me and a friend of mine were installing some new stuff in his car (a pair of kicker xpl 15's and a zr600 amp). anyway, we got it going, and i put in bass patrol, and we pounded them things, and the walls of the garage rattled so much, that their shelves collapsed and sent garden tools and tool boxes a flyin'.... luckily they didn't hit the car...
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Hey Drop, didn't you ask them if they have ever heard of somthing called a search warrant? This would have made you look guilty, but the search would have been legal. But you were probably better off just letting them look throught your stuff and show you have nothin to hide.
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If you aint down with the iggster and his sounds I got 2 words for ya: Image Dynamics!!!
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Yep...you could have asked for it. They are supposed to have one. But if you gave them permission to search its all good. If you have nothing to hide though might as well let the search.
------------------ Robert (Rob) 1996 Chevy Cavlier 2.2L Member Of"Team Gates" and "Team Shockwave" USAC Sactioned Judge -----Judged----- 1999 Spring Break Nationals 1999 Midwest Regional http://www.sounddomain.com/5349 My up and coming SPL system.
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LOL hey me again . that had to suck . Well i hope the guy is convinced you didnty take it.
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Man this has been bothering me for some time now. Who in there little $%## up mind came up with this I dont know. Maybe a year ago me and my brother are driving down the highway and a cop turns on his sirens. He was speeding so we kind figured he was going to get a ticket but instead the cop walks up looks inside and ask us to step out of the vehicle. We get out he ask to search the car my brother didnt have any problem with that. After searching the cabin he grabbed the key to the trunk opens it saw my brother sub box and amp, stands there for a few seconds then grabs it and throws it on the ground. Riping on cone and putting a 2 inch hole in the other. Somehow he also tore the amp all to hell. Fun thing is once the cop got done destroying about $500 worth of equipment he said sorry and gave us a ticket for speeding then left us to clean up his mess. Yet the funneist thing is that my brother called the police department and they told him he couldnt do **** about it. Reason I post this is because my brother only spent $500 maybe on his stereo, I on the other hand have spent the last year building my system and almost have around $2000-$2500 and for a 16 year old that has busted ass fixing car building boxs and working hard to get that I wouldnt be able to stand there and watch some cop tear it apart. Now I have tried the I wont let you search my car deal but that only lead to him giving me a ticket for every little thing wrong on my car. Anyone got any clue on if there is a law against a cop just tearing your car apart?
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doughboy...im no lawyer(devils)so i would say to talk to on first but i would think that you could still sue for property damage in small claims court. Protect your rights and vote. talk to or wright letters to your local,state government officials. these are the only things that i could think of that may help you to understand what recourses you may have if a similar incident where to happen to you. good luck.
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This is NOT legal advice, only common sense advice, contact the city attorney and tell him what happened, I'm willing to bet he'll step up and do something about it. If that doesn't work contact an attorney, but for only $500 I would probably only do that if I knew, as a family friend, an attorney who could do something. Most attorneys either work on a contingency basis ("we only get paid if you get paid") and it would not be worth their time to sue and get $500 back, because once they take 40% and expenses you are back to zero (probably below zero), and the others get paid by the hour generally at least $100 an hour, so you can see how fast that adds up.
As to Lawyers being devils, what good are rights the constitution gives us if no one is there to fight for you to defend those rights. Sorry but I'm a 3rd year law student (last year) and had to speak to that.
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Doughboy, what that cop did was illegal. He had no probable cause to search through your stuff, no right at all. I see your in Illinois, my Uncle has his own business firm, so if you want I can give him a call for you.
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2 12" IDQ's ?Audiobahn 18001d?
If you aint down with the iggster and his sounds I got 2 words for ya: Image Dynamics!!!
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Well its in the far past now. I do on the other hand feel it will happen to me soon. A cop that lives up the street from me has a problem with me for some reason, ya I went by his house 1 time "yes ONCE" with my bass up and he treated to send me to jail over that "how I dont know" now he gives me weekly visits for no reason woot woot. Just a little side note :P if anyone know of a wrecked s-10 88-99 please let me know and around Alton, Illinois or St. louis. All fenders/panels/interior will be replaced so go from that :P
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Iggster, he said the police officer ask permission to search the car and his friend said OK. You don't need probable cause once permission is given. just an observation.
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Unfortunately there are always corrupt officers out there....I've met quite a few. One did an illegal search of my stereo car when I was heading back from the Spring Break comp. He stopped me, got me out of the car and stood me in a ditch, then proceeded to search the entire cabin and open the trunk and search it. No permission was given. It's best to either say nothing at all or just give a very calm answer of no if they ask. What's nice is an illegal search (no permission and no probable cause/warrant) can't turnup admissable evidence. You could have a k of 'stuff' in there or a gun and they can't be used against you in court. Though they will certainly arrest you. If he damages anything intentionally he can be held liable but your chances of winning are mediocre. I've even had a couple of officers threaten to kill me in my street racing days. They had lost me a few to many times and were real pissy about it. That is certainly illegal but it was my word against two of them. Some times you just have to shut up and take it. By the way, many departments have an Internal Affairs department that can be spoken with to make complaints about officers conduct... Just another option. This is not legal council and I'm certainly not qualified to do so. I've just had some run in's and talked with a few lawyers and read up a little. And never been arrested By the way, the terrorism bill was the biggest attack on our personal rights ever.
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Like was said he gave the ok to search the car so no warrent was needed.
It sucks though that what happened did. I would be doing like was said calling everyone and their brother about this.
Here is a story of mine...
Back in about 1995. It was a friday night. I was out crusing the stip like everyone. At the time I probably had one of the louder systems that was out there that night. All was kewl. No one complaining or yelling at me (not that I could hear them..hehe). Cop pulled me over and gave me a ticket for noise and a warning for the license plate. It vibrated the plate down so you couldnot see it. So that was that. Gave me a lecture and as he was walking away said nice stereo. That was that.
Well the weekend goes by and I am driving down this strip on a sunday afternoon going home. All was good. Well I was at a stop like and look in my rear view mirror and see lights again. Well I am getting pulled over AGAIN. Turn out to be the SAME cop but this time he has his partner. Needless to say he recognized me. I got a ticket for noise again and a ticket for the plate this time.
He also had me roll up my side windows to see if they were tinted. He also took a pic of everything in the car and gave me the warning that if he ever seen my doing this again with the noise he would arrest me and see me in court.
This was a sunday. That thursday my car was broken into and all was a total loss. Hmm....
------------------ Robert (Rob) - 1996 Chevy Cavlier 2.2 Member Of"Team Gates" and "Team Shockwave" USAC Sactioned Judge
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You would be amazed at the low level of suspecision that a police officer needs to search a car, it is not the same as the level needed to search the person or a home, there is a much lower level of expectation of privacy, in the eyes of the Supreme Court.
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Ok then, you're right now that I think about it. Some little ****s have been thieving stereo's and stuff out of people's vehicles out where I live(3.6 miles outside of town). A guy up the road caught a couple kids in his driveway, followed them and recognized them and the four wheeler they were on. Later that night, he woke up again to find out that there was a fire in his fence row. He called the cops and a stereo, a purse, a bunch of cds, and a wallet were found nearby(the purse was on fire). The cops went to the little punks home and asked to search, but the kid wouldn't let them(hmmm I wonder who's guilty?). They also broke into my grandmothers car and stole some tools and stuff. Needless to say, someone's not gonna have any kneecaps if I catch them.
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I understand where your coming from RFalp but never say that. It can be used against you in court. Even if your just threatening a rapist/murderer it can be used against you as premeditation. (If you do put a cap in somebody, even if they deserve it, like a rapist/murderer/child molester)
'Where there's a will there's a wall' 'Would you like a little SQ with your SPL?'
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Nod to Tech.....the Miranda rights are there to protect you. Think it, but never ever say it dude!! Sometimes it's incredibly hard to do the right thing when it feels like you're doing nothing at all!! Nearly got myself kicked outa college for that, luckily I had profs to back me up, but.....oy vey!!
CA&E had a letter about 5 years ago from a dude in prison for beating the tar outa 2 guys for stealing his system. He caught them, apprihended them, then took his Luisville Slugger to them. Something about that whole vigilanty thing thatthe police don't seem to appriciate..... One would think they'd be more appriciative of our efforts .
Oh well, back to work before they decide to see what I'm really up to all day long
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Bout' Two years back, a friend of mine was cruisin the strip, and was pulled on suspicion of illegal substance (guy was clean as can be), however, in his grand prix he had two kicker comps, and a zr series amp. The cop decided that the kid was hiding something inside of the box, and ripped the h311 out of it. Bent the baskets of the woofers, somehow cut most of the wiring, and basically laid waste to the entire ride. FOUND NOTHING! The cop was kind enough to help him shovel everything into the car (in pieces of course), and no reparations were made.
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