my friend tony tells me that he wants to hang out at a friends house while they are onn vacation... i tell him i cant stay. he says ok. tells me to drop him off at the haircutters and pick up a movie for whoever shows up... i said aight thats cool wit me.
so i drops him off and go to blockbuster. i arrive back at the house at 5 to drop off the movie and go home... as im walkjing up the driveway i hear the nextdoor neighbor (a cop) ask me where i was going. i say to give my friend a video... he says "HELL NO!!!!!" and calls the cops.
as it turns out my "friends" were smoking maddddd "herb" in the house which is obviously illegal. so they all panic and the neighbor holds me from leaving. so the cops arrive and charge me for possesion of marijuana, possesion of paraphanalia , and under the influence.
the capt. said that it was a mistake to say i was under the influence since he arrived first and knew i wasnt high cuz it was obvious.
but this isnt the worst of it!!!!!!!!!!
ok so get this.... my "friend" EJ wont admit that its his weed 'which it was' and says hes getting a lawyer to **** us all over.
now tell me this isnt the worst! i try to be a nice guy and drop my friend off and pick up a movie but nooooooooo! the nice guy gets charged for as much as EJ gets!
can this get any worse???????
now does anyone think i can get anwqay seeing as i really wasnt involved even though he wont admit its his?????????? (i would like ur opinions) PLEASE!
damn this sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't beleive the neigbour can hold you for leaving unless he SEES you doing something illegal.. might be something to check out.. but anyways drugs tests as well..
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I say kick the guys ass or castrate him. Thats such a **** thing to do. He probably isn't, I say just kick him to the ground and make him feel the pain, nothing makes me more mad than thiefs and liars.
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Sounds like he wasnt a very good friend. Id beat his ass till he confesses...btw how did they get you with posession of marijuana if you were still outside being held by the neighbor?
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ok i dont get this..the neighbor sees u coming up the drive and holds u outside so u can't go in...so u never came in contact with it...if u pass a drug test then your set on that side and if u dont have anything on you or in your vehicle or any witness to say they saw it on u then what exactly is the problem
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You're screwed. If you were personally in possession of marijuana, too bad. It doesn't matter who's pot it was. It could have been for a medical marijuana patient, you're still screwed.
Even if you borrowed your friends car, and he hid some pot in the glove box, you're still screwed. You are responsible for the contents of the car or your person. If the pot was stashed inside the tire and you had no knowledge, you could fight it. You'd probably still lose though.
From the sounds of it, you showed up sober. But you had some pot and papers and a ripped up pack of cigarettes. Sorry buddy, you're most definetely screwed. Seek a good lawyer.
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You need to be more specific with your details here. Did you have any pot on you, or in YOUR car? Did the neighbor (the cop) detain you completely BEFORE you entered that house? Were you at the house earlier? Did he, or anyone else search you or your car without consent, and without probable cause? Did you do or say anything that would irritate the neighbor and start a "situation" to begin with? Did he physically touch you when you were approaching the house? How much "stuff" did you have on you, or in the car.... Etc. etc..
If you were just arriving, and he stopped you, and you had NOTHING on your person, or in your car, they have NO legal case against you. You were not in possession unless YOU physically had some on you, or in your car (which you just stepped out of). If you did have some, then you ARE at fault, and ARE in possession, and ARE going to get into trouble. (probably just a slap on the wrist and MAYBE probation if anything though knowing our court system).
If they searched your car without consent, and without probable cause (you weren't doing anything illegal at the time of detainment, so they have no legal right to search, unless you said "go ahead"). Now, even if you DID say it was ok, you could fight it, and possibly win, by just saying you had no reason to believe anything was in the car or you wouldn't have consented to a search to begin with, and point out who was in the car previously to help your case. Although proving any of the last bit is difficult, and may not work anyway.
Anyway, I'd go to court, and ask for a public defender if you can't afford your own attorney, and explain it to them, and hopefully you can fight it if you are truly innocent.
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Well since it sounds like you werent selling you probably wont get in that much trouble. You will prob just get a little community service or at most probation for six months. I dont know what the cops are like in NJ but you shouldnt get in that much trouble. How old are you?
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OH..and how much pot was it and i wouldnt waste time and money getting a lawyer. Just show up to court and speak for yourself.
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If you are truely innocent of all charges and end up getting prosecuted you should sue your "friend" for defamation of character. Even if he is flat broke if you win you can have his wages garnished until you are paid off. He screwed you, why not return the favor. Posts: 35 | From: Jacksonville, AR | Registered: Jun 2002
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If have a clean record and its under 40 grams you will prolly get a conditional discharge. if so you will get 1 year probation and like $1000 in fines (thats the worst part) but if you dont get busted for anything during the probation period the charges will be exponged (removed from your record) and thats the end of it but if you do get in trouble when you are on probation the will charge you for whatever you did and charge you again for the drug charge and no charges will be exponged. As for the c*ck smoker who basically screwed you over give him a chance to redeem himself by telling the cops the real deal but if he doesnt I would beat the piss outta him and then after all the court stuff is over have someone else beat the hell outta him again (cuz if you do it it will be a probation violation Im really sorry to hear that happened but atleast now you know who your friends really are before they got you into a more serious situation. John
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to clean this up i had 2 cigars and a pack of kools with my wallet...
nothing else and nothing was in 100ft of me that was illegal. i was sober and was merely dropping a movie off which is now 4 days late cuz i have no car.
they didnt write down the cigars in the police report and the captain of the department is testifying that i wasnt under the influence.
i was never in the house merely opened my door of my casr in his driveway. (no trespassing charges.)
am i still screwed?
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Well in that case Without a lawyer you will be screwed but a lawyer should be able to get those charges dropped without a problem. I cant believe the cops actually charged you with anything because they should know how hard its gonna be to get those charges to stick. John
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You don't need a lawyer cause they don't have anything on you! They can't charge you with possession because you didn't have anything on you...when (if) you go to court tell them to prove you were in possesion...where's the "herb"? Second, since you weren't in possesion you cannot be charged with paraphanalia...if it is illegal to have a cigar why is it legal to sell them? Last but not least, "under the influence", did the cops see you smoking...NO. Are they psychic?
How does the saying go..."All suspects are innocent until proven guilty"
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exactly man.... i wasnt even in the house so how can they convict me? the captain is testifying that i wasnt high so thats dropped and they didnt write down my phillies in the report so what do they have on me? jack shhhhht.
so im not afraid and im not getting a lawyer either cuz im not wasting my money on this cr*p. the police merely arrested me because they couldnt tell if i was there to smoke or not so they arrested me anyway... and the only reason i have any charges is because this officer called miracle will put any charge he can on you just because he can.
so screw this gayazz system cuz it dsoesnt make any sense and the innocent guy always gets screwed. so f u and u ur an A-hole PEACE OUT!
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quote:Originally posted by John8172: You don't need a lawyer cause they don't have anything on you! They can't charge you with possession because you didn't have anything on you...when (if) you go to court tell them to prove you were in possesion...where's the "herb"? Second, since you weren't in possesion you cannot be charged with paraphanalia...if it is illegal to have a cigar why is it legal to sell them? Last but not least, "under the influence", did the cops see you smoking...NO. Are they psychic?
How does the saying go..."All suspects are innocent until proven guilty"
Make them prove it, you shouldn't have anything to worry about...just don't let them fool you!
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quote:Originally posted by John8172: You don't need a lawyer cause they don't have anything on you! They can't charge you with possession because you didn't have anything on you...when (if) you go to court tell them to prove you were in possesion...where's the "herb"? Second, since you weren't in possesion you cannot be charged with paraphanalia...if it is illegal to have a cigar why is it legal to sell them? Last but not least, "under the influence", did the cops see you smoking...NO. Are they psychic?
How does the saying go..."All suspects are innocent until proven guilty"
Make them prove it, you shouldn't have anything to worry about...just don't let them fool you!
I should have been more specific You dont need a lawyer but you need to atleast speak with the public defender cuz if you go up their by yourself the judge will blow off anything you say (atleast theat is what Ive noticed from my experience) john
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Mostasteless is right, when I said you don't need a lawyer I should have said you don't need to pay for a lawyer.
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good....now that you have him by the balls, crush them, throw them on the ground and stomp on them. what a scumbag azzhole friend he was. what was his name? so i know if i ever meet him (or if i know him already) i know to stay away.
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he calmed down a bit and still thinks they will baby him but i was assured that the garwood and clark police departments arenbt happy with him and arent going to baby him. the procecutor even said to me that he either takes rehab or jail.... thats it! and if he pleads not guilty like he says he wants to do then hes screwed.
BUT as for all you termproers check back JULY 1st and beyond to see an update because that is when his first court date is. I know u guys are just dying to know what happens to this kid.
quote:Originally posted by IceWaLL: ok lets rap this up...
i am representing myself and all of my charges were garenteed to be dropped by the prosecuter because they are using me to "rat" on my friend.
they told his lawyer that he can either go to jail or take a rehab program.
so basically i have him by his "balls".
so all i have to do is wait for his trial to start and see if they need me to testify.
thanx for your opinions i appreciate them.
nuff said.
Something is missing here.How can you rat on your friend? You said you just arrived and never went inside! So you either knew of the "PARTY" and what he had in his possesion or had to have been at the party. Otherwise, you are of no value to the cops. Watch what you say to them.
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You were not in possession of any weed, and the cops have nothing on you. Nothing.
Phillies are not illegal, and neither is walking up a driveway.
First off, the cop who "held" you should be reprimanded. No reason, no cause - he was just trying to be "supercop", and we don't need any more of those.
Second, if the prosecutor tries to threaten you with any charges - to get you to testify, or whatever - don't bend. This guy knows you can't be prosecuted, because you didn't do anything. You're not worth his time - make sure he knows that. If they try to squeeze you for any reaon, tactfully remind him of your "uncle" (who's last name you "can't recall" right now) is an attorney, and is already planning your false arrest and malicious prosecution suit against the city. It's almost worth it think about going through with it - that cop needs a lesson in police procedure.
I hope you don't have to go this far - and you probably won't. Most prosecutors are reasonble guys, and this one knows he's not going to convict you, and probably won't waste the effort trying.
And for the record, I have nothing but respect for police officers who treat the general public as basic equals. Most cops are good people, who live to help others and keep our cities safe, while treating people with respect. It's just the ones who think they are above everyone else because they have a badge and a gun that I can't stand. Treat people with respect, and you'll get the same in return.
Good luck, pal - though I don't think yo need it.
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well i knew of the "party" but thought it was just me, tony, my best friend, and one of my friends watching movies. i had no idea that tony invited EJ to bring his pot.
i knew EJ had 1/2 an ounce or more.... AND when he tried to say i was a LIAR!, ruin my image, and send his lawyer after me.... well i had absolutely no choice but to "rat" him out.
++me and EJ and all my friends are still cool with each other and i say hi to EJ almost everyday now seeing as we work across the main road from each other. him at wendy's and me at shoprite.++
anything else that doesnt "piece" together????? ill explain if i have to.
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