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i had a guy come in our shop the other day.we sell vega,cadence,mtx,jvc,panasonic,and a few others,this guy told me that legacy is better than anything i had,and oval speakers are better than round,coaxial is better than components,and that if you hook a 100 watt amp up to a highpower sub ,like mtx 8000 that there is no way it would distort,or you would ever blow it,i'm sorry i love helping people out and i love my customers but this guy is a jackass,any other crazy stories about customers
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I feel sorry for the dealers that have to put up with this crap... Like when a know-it-all walks into a store and knows he's not going to buy anything. All they do is argue and then leave.
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I kind of go into a shop doing that. Not really though. I will go in and really try to see what the salesman and/or installer knows, even when I know I am not buying anything that day. I do it just to see whow the salespeople act and if they are trying to bull$hit their way into a sale. If I like the salesman I will probably come back later and buy some stuff from them.
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what peteyglad said might be true it could be a test,thats a little insight to keep in mind,i never looked at it that way,but i then ask why,before i was an installer,or salesman,and was an enthusiast i new what was good,and never hasseled anyone likethat,but you never know with some people,nut thanks for that reply peteyglad,i'll keep it in mind
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When i go into a stero shop i just listen to what they say if i dont like what they are say i i just be polite and maybe hope to learn something new.
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I have a freind that is like that excecpt some of the things he "knows" are just stupid and don't make any sense.
A couple of things that he has let me know is
If you go to an airport with over $1000 cash the security can confiscate it and say its drug money.
You will get cancer faster if you smoke a half smoked cigerete rather than smoking a cigerete all at once. He says this is why old people get breathing problems.
Don't ever buy a Ford or a Dodge truck they wont hold a transmission in them for more than a couple years. (He has never owned either one)
Volvo's don't last that long and they are peices of $hit. (The most miles ever put on a car record is held by a 1970 something volvo with close to 2 million documented miles on it) My dad owns a volvo that has 275,000 miles on it. He bought it after he sold his old one that had 250,000 on it. Hell, the guys mom has a volvo that has 175,000 miles on it. (I'd like to see his truck last that long)
And he is very opinionated and wrong about some things.
He insists that my old stereo is not as loud as his old stereo.
MY 800a2 + 2round solo 12s + high amp alt + 4 guage power wire + 2 sets of 2.0 zero noise rca cables + mb quarts Q component set + 250a2 in a 91 tbird
vs
His 250a2 2 kicker comp 12s + stock alt + 8 guage power wire + rca's that came with his wiring kit + factory highs in a 89 pointiac grand am 4cyl.
It don't really matter to me almost all of his canversations start out with " hey I heard from a friend at work "
He thinks his 99 silverado (smallest v8 available) with a flowmaster is faster than my old 85 transam with High output fuel injected 305 + air intake and true duel exhaust. (this may be true but I would have to see it to beleive it)
He also thinks its faster than my dads 68 gtx convertable. It has a 440 which I think comes out to be about 7.0 something liters of displacement Rated at 375 hp 400ft pounds of torque. Actually more like 400+ hp. My dad only drives it about 5 times a year and it dont do nothing but sit in the garage. He thinks its a peice because it has some ware on it but I just can't get it through his head that it is a rare classic and that it has ware on it because it is 30 years old and my dad bought it from a guy that used it to drag race it for money.
He makes fun of me for driving a wagon. And all im trying to do is be half way original.
He is the kinda person that says stuff like ford, dodge, chrysler, and hondas suck. Chevys are the best.
And on top of all that he rags on my stereo (read my sig) in my car when all he has is one 6 ohm jlw3 in a standard cab truck run off a small alpine amp.
I have learned that a good bit of people in this world are morons. There is a differnce between not knowing something and being ignorant. I don't mind if someone doesn't know something but I don't like people that voice opinions on things they know anything about that I didn't ask for in the first place.
So unless they insult you do what I do and just say yeah and act like your listening and just don't worry about what they have to say.
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i'm like a intern, volunteer at a shop here in NY, we build the loudest stuff around and go to other local shops and show them up at their lil comps, my man got a amp from one of these stores and now it goes into protect, this shop tells him that the subs are wired up at .5 ohms!! my friend came to the shop where I hang and I knew it was a crock of sh#i cuz they were my old bahn aw1200x's with dvc 4 coils, of course I went out and measured it with a DMM and it was right on at 1 ohm!!! oh well!!!
they even drew a lil pic of how to wire the subs at 4 ohms, I was thinking, why in the hell did they sell him a 1 ohm stable planet audio vector 1000d if he was gonna run it at a 4 ohm load!! some shops are just gay!!
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oh man.. ignorance is bliss... i say ignorance cause this is someone who has no idea what they are talking about. I have a quote, I cannot remember who said it.. I read this back when i was a soph. in high school, and have never forgotten it.
" common sense is not so common"
sounds simple.. but at the same time it is a lil deep.. think about it.. not everyone has the same common knowledge .
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I've had numerous customers diagnose the problem and tell me how to fix it, and want me to fix it. The way that I deal with it is charge them to fix it the way they instructed, and if it still doesn't work, charge them again to do it my way. I tell them that up front too, most of the time they shut up and let me do it my way.
The best BS I've heard from a customer is a tie for the guy that had a van with 12 Eclipse 8815's or 15" Ti's (he didn't know which) that a shop in Georgia supposedly installed, and they metered it and it did a 176, or the guy that I had SEEN his installation work before (2 Lanzar Pro DVC 15's with 1 coil hooked up running off of HU power, WEDGED between the rear deck and trunk floor, with no baffle or rear seat) and claimed he used to have 4 15's doing a 170 out of the trunk of his 86 Mustang (yeah, the one with an actual trunk, no hatch)
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that reminds me.. my best friend's uncle ( the idiot uncle everyone has.. you know.. the one who knows nothing about everything) well his uncle said he helped build a stereo system a few years back. and check this... it hit 230 dB !!! yea that is right.. no decimel marks missing.. 230dB. he said it had like 24 speakers or something.. I told him he was full of it.. he got mad and said i don't know anything about car audio ( lmao) and he got all defensive. I asked him which brands, and which amps, and how many batteries and what kind, what freq did he play.. yaddah yaddah... he got quiet.. then later after i left, he said to my friend, "maybe it wasn't 230dB.. but it was loud.".. umm.. as far as we know.. it was his friend's van, and they put a pair of 6x9s in it with an amp... THAT'S IT ! the uncle in question is a complete moron. I would compare him to "cliff" from Cheers.. but cliff is a lot smarter !! a LOT
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quote:Originally posted by SPL Jester: that reminds me.. my best friend's uncle ( the idiot uncle everyone has.. you know.. the one who knows nothing about everything) well his uncle said he helped build a stereo system a few years back. and check this... it hit 230 dB !!! yea that is right.. no decimel marks missing.. 230dB. he said it had like 24 speakers or something.
That's not a sound system, it's either a nuclear blast at ground zero or the sonar system of the USS Seawolf...
Damn, the loudest thing i've heard from so far is a sonar, wich has been tested at 233 dB at 900-some feets underwater (Read here, bone crushing pressure)
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the same guy i posted this about,came back to the store saturday,he has a 97 cougar w/premium sound,he also has a pyramid amp pushing a pair of thump subs,he comes in and says,when he hooks his pioneer hu up all he gets sounds out of are the subs,i asked well what are you using to turn on the factory amps,thats what it sounded like to me his factory amps were not turning on,he says i dunno,i asked if he was using a metra harness,he said well i bought it from walmart,well he brought me his harness no remote turn on lead,so i sold him one of our metra harnesses,and showed him how to hook it all up,and he did it worked out great,so he is now bumpin kinda with,the pyramid and thump subs,but i think he might listen to hat i have to say now.
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The shop closest to me would always call people's bluff and bet SPL for systems. They always seemed to shut up and walk away.
Perhaps DROPBOTTOM S10 could do that, get some enjoyment out of the day, and do some advertisement for the shop...and if their stuff is really crappy you can just tell them that you wouldn't even take it.
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well i hat to say this, but there may be as many shop owners/employees out there that are like this as there are customers.... well probably not, but you get the point...
a shop near me just the other day told me this
"Me: just saw your audiobahn sticker, doyou sell them now?
them: nope, we put that sticker up as a joke to see how many people would come in asking
me: so im guessig you arent buig fans of audiobahn then?
them: we get too many people coming in with a bunch of audiobahn 10s thinking they can hit 170 and none of them i have seen ever do over 140
me: i run audiobahn and did a 150.9
them: yeah right, and where did you get that number from?
me: the mic at iasca finals........
them: and how many are you running (smug look on his face the whole time)?
me:2 (then i point at my truck with the clearly visible wall)
them: yeah well there is another guy running the same setup and he is kicking your arse.... he is doing 154s... a goofy looking guy with a goatee and glasses... "
the "goofy looking" guy with the glasses did a best of 152 and played a major role in my system.
man that was long.... this guy has issues... he laughed at my old setup at a comp i went to...didnt offer any constructive criticism or ask questions, just laughed and pointed.... of course when my single 12 outhit his 4 12s (shop owner btw.) he didnt say much after that..... this guy pisses me off sooo much.... man this topic has really gotten me going...sorry
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quote:Originally posted by regal1975: well i hat to say this, but there may be as many shop owners/employees out there that are like this as there are customers.... well probably not, but you get the point...
a shop near me just the other day told me this
"Me: just saw your audiobahn sticker, doyou sell them now?
them: nope, we put that sticker up as a joke to see how many people would come in asking
me: so im guessig you arent buig fans of audiobahn then?
them: we get too many people coming in with a bunch of audiobahn 10s thinking they can hit 170 and none of them i have seen ever do over 140
me: i run audiobahn and did a 150.9
them: yeah right, and where did you get that number from?
me: the mic at iasca finals........
them: and how many are you running (smug look on his face the whole time)?
me:2 (then i point at my truck with the clearly visible wall)
them: yeah well there is another guy running the same setup and he is kicking your arse.... he is doing 154s... a goofy looking guy with a goatee and glasses... "
the "goofy looking" guy with the glasses did a best of 152 and played a major role in my system.
man that was long.... this guy has issues... he laughed at my old setup at a comp i went to...didnt offer any constructive criticism or ask questions, just laughed and pointed.... of course when my single 12 outhit his 4 12s (shop owner btw.) he didnt say much after that..... this guy pisses me off sooo much.... man this topic has really gotten me going...sorry
I'm sure it feels good to destroy egos of people like that. Then again if he's just plain stupid nothing you do or hit will make him think otherwise.
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Yeppers... I like the salesmen that ask what I'm competing with... When I say Digital designs, they always say somthing along the lines of... Digital Designs? Ha... I've never heard of them... did you get them at the mexican swap meet? They must be ****ty subs... Anything you see in this shop is gonna be better than those... You should upgrade to some of these XPlods here if you really want to compete! ... 800Watts power handling? HA! that's waaaaay over-rated!...
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the other day i was in a shop and they had an official rockford fosgate demo van rented until like middle of march. it had (i think 6-12" power hx2's and about 12 amps *either bd1000's or bd1500's*). this thing was cherry. no corners cut or anything. anyways, i'm like what has this hit? and he says 175.4. and i'm like that's not right. i just said are you sure? and he's like yep it was metered the week before it came here. now, correct me if im wrong, but that's the world record, ain't it? and i thought what the hell is the world's loudest vehicle doing in a local shop in the middle of sioux falls SOUTH DAKOTA???? maybe he was talking outlaw? would it be feasable to assume he was talking an outlaw score? or did he have his numbers crossed??? i've been pondering all week...
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