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SoundWerx
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do u add a jumper or what?? lmk how u tackle this

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use 2 relays... connect the outputs of the relays to the starter wires, and use the remote start starter output to trip the 2 relays [Cool]

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i use 1 relay. - output of the remote start to 85, 86 to 1st start wire, 30 2nd start, 87 12volts

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that would work 2 [Big Grin]

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whats a relay do vs a jumper?? please explain. noob here lol

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hmm maybe you shouldnt be doing remote starters if you dont know the answer to that question....

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further insight-

there are 2 starter wires for a reason (not sure why they do it?)

if you ran a jumper you would be hooking both wires togehter, so they would be hooked up all the time.. in this case why wouldnt they just hook them together from the factory? well, most likely because they are two seperate circuits (once again for what reason i dont know)

For this you would need to isolate the wires, with a relay, so they are not connected together. you wouldnt hook ign1 and ign2 together with a jumper would you?

sorry for the excessive rant but to do this simply run pin 87 to +12v, 86 to your start wire, 85 to ground, and 30 to your 2nd starter wire.

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only thing i would do different is 85 to ground when running and 2 sec before. wont hurt anything just if u use a regular ground the relay will be triggered when starting with a key. it wont hurt anything. remember that wire can only be used for 2 outputs even when diode isolating. so if ur using antigrind,and a bypass module just ground that wire...
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It depends on your system and if you install starter kill/anti grind. Wire the first starter as usual. Use the - second starter output of the system to 85. 86 and 87 to 12v constant. 30 to second starter.

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quote:
Originally posted by pipebomb:
hmm maybe you shouldnt be doing remote starters if you dont know the answer to that question....

I dont know everything. If I did I wouldnt be worried about installing car starters. Thanks for the info. My knowledgebase is/was very limited to simple cars. i am now on my own and researching and doing more. gotta earn someway somehow.

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The remote starts I use have a programable output for another starter , ignition or accessory!

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^ most starters do have a selectable output but he may be using that to a 2nd ignition, not sure of the car...
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quote:
Originally posted by pimpin at my house:
^ most starters do have a selectable output but he may be using that to a 2nd ignition, not sure of the car...

will the on board relays isloate the 2 starter wires from each other?

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When I first started doing remote starts I jumped a few with no problems. It is certainly not reccomended, and putting a relay in is an extra 2 minutes during prewire, max. We used to charge customers an extra 35 bucks for the second starter wire. [Big Grin]

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yea the selectable wire is just like wiring a 2nd relay totally isolated...
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quote:
Originally posted by pimpin at my house:
yea the selectable wire is just like wiring a 2nd relay totally isolated...

cool cool

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i have only done a couple cars that didnt have a 2nd ign,starter or acc wire. some cars have 2ign,and 3 acc wires...
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quote:
Originally posted by xi2elic:
When I first started doing remote starts I jumped a few with no problems. It is certainly not reccomended, and putting a relay in is an extra 2 minutes during prewire, max. We used to charge customers an extra 35 bucks for the second starter wire. [Big Grin]

Not to bag on you or your business practices, but that is highway robbery IMO. I cannot believe how much people charge to do insignificant things to remote starts, like hooking up 2 wires for locks, or a wire for the horn, or a wire for trunk pop. I know people gotta make money, but it seems to me that customers are getting taken advantage of...

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i cant see $35 for a relay but his price may be really low to begain with.

i charge 30 for door locks mostly for time lots of them now have resistors and take a little bit.

some of us start with a lower price and it gives the customer the opertunity to have a choise and customers like that. some places start at $250 and include door locks and trunk...

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