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The wife wants me to put a remote starter in both our cars. So I have a couple questions and concerns. First, I have a 2002 Hyundai Elantra and a 2001 Nissan Altima.
1. I see mad cheap kits on ebay under $80. Are these a waste of money? I see a lot of local audio stores advertising "$150 remote starter installed" and was wondering if these would maybe be comparible to what those shops use.
2. My 2001 Altima has a transponder chip in the key. What else do I need to buy to get the remote starter to work with this? What should I look out for when installing in this car?
3. Do you guys find it necessary to solder the wires? I really hate making permanent-like mods to my cars.
4. Any cheap remote starters you guys recommend? It doesn't have to have a ton of features. I really don't have much preference except that I wish for one that will not give me a bunch of trouble. Two-way would be nice, but not necessary. Great range is a must!
5. Should I buy local or Ebay?
Thanks!
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get a well known brand or you are wasting money. like DEI aka viper, python ect, there are other good ones.
besides if you were really good with electronics you wouldn't be asking, go local and get them install by a pro.
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Well I am really good with electronics. I know those are the best brands and you forgot to mention Alpine. Just askin if those are the only ones that make decent equipment! I don't need the best, just something that wont give me a headache!
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if your not an installer id recommerd getting it istalled at a shop that is reputable. dont let them use t-taps or scotch locks. soldering is much more reliable and will give you less headaches.
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the elantra has a transponder and the altima could have one too. look at the plastic on the key. the elentra ur gonna have to k=how to test because there is several same gauge wires that are red that you have to tap into that you must have correct. the altima my have a security too that must be tapped into also...SPLaudio
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quote:Originally posted by ImmortalSPL: if your not an installer id recommerd getting it istalled at a shop that is reputable. dont let them use t-taps or scotch locks. soldering is much more reliable and will give you less headaches.
I do consider myself an installer because I install all of my own audio electronics as well as most of my friends and family's. Not to mention I am an automotive technician. So I know a thing or two!
quote:Originally posted by pimpin at my house: the elantra has a transponder and the altima could have one too. look at the plastic on the key. the elentra ur gonna have to k=how to test because there is several same gauge wires that are red that you have to tap into that you must have correct. the altima my have a security too that must be tapped into also...SPLaudio
No, my Elantra does not have a transponder key system. It is just a regular key that can be purchased an cut at Home Depot. And I know about the ignition harness. There are 4 reds, a yellow, and a white. I know because I already installed a remote starter on this car before. It was a gift from my wifes mom; a $50 piece of crap from Kmart that never worked right, so I ripped it out. Yes, the Altima does have the transponder key (which costed me $96 for a second one by the way). Like I said, I am fully capable of testing wires and finding what is B+, acc, and starter and what not. As long as the kit comes with the right wiring diagram and instructions, I can handle it.
However, I was talkin to a guy at a shop that tinted my windows earlier today, and he said that the transponder bypasser is included in the kit that is designed for cars with transponders. He was saying that you can't just put any old transponder with any remote starter; it has to match. But then Circuit City sells transponder bypassers separtely. Are these something different or something?
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you will need a transponder bypass. should have said something i could have gotten you a key for less than a 1/4 of what you paid. you will loose a key too...
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quote:Originally posted by pimpin at my house: you will need a transponder bypass. should have said something i could have gotten you a key for less than a 1/4 of what you paid. you will loose a key too...
So you are saying if I install the remote starter in my Altima, I will only be able to use one key? Or I will have to get one reprogrammed?
Oh, and the $96 was the total for the dealer to provide, cut and program the key. $60 for the key and $45 for the program then tax.
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what remote starter do you plan on installing? any transponder bypass system should work with any remote starter it wouldnt make sense otherwise. DEI makes a transponder bypass part no. 556UW that will need to have a programmed key installed into it. installing a remote starter yourself and not being an experienced installer can be a gamble because then you dont have a the gaurantee that shops offer along with an installation. not doubting you but its nice to have the assurance of the remote starter always working. my advice would be to purchase a DEI remote starter and make sure you obtain the appropriate info for the vehicles. good luck!
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quote:Originally posted by ImmortalSPL: what remote starter do you plan on installing? any transponder bypass system should work with any remote starter it wouldnt make sense otherwise. DEI makes a transponder bypass part no. 556UW that will need to have a programmed key installed into it.
Yeah the guy at the audio shop was saying you can't just put any bypass with any starter. He said the bypass should come in the box with the starter and would be sold as a transponder bypass type of remote starter.
About the key, I would not be able to use both of my keys with the car once the starter is installed?
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thats a great remote starter/keyless i actually install that model very ofter along with the python 1400xp(basicaly same unit). pretty easy to install. i wuld also recommend getting that same one for you altima or maybe a nice DEI 2-way system. PM me if you would like some info on these vehicles, such as wiring colors and locations.
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quote:Originally posted by ImmortalSPL: what remote starter do you plan on installing? any transponder bypass system should work with any remote starter it wouldnt make sense otherwise. DEI makes a transponder bypass part no. 556UW that will need to have a programmed key installed into it.
Yeah the guy at the audio shop was saying you can't just put any bypass with any starter. He said the bypass should come in the box with the starter and would be sold as a transponder bypass type of remote starter.
About the key, I would not be able to use both of my keys with the car once the starter is installed?
Great claim. NOT TRUE. You can use a few different interfaces with any remote starts. I use Autostart as-1424 and Omega MARS-22 remote starts and all interfaces from www.bypasskit.com I do not have issues with any items. You can usually buy the omega and interfaces on ebay. I do not solder cause my customers want to switch cars and want me to take it out. So why deal with the extra hassle. Nobody I know of is including a interface with the remote start. It is usually extra, cause if your car doesnt have one then it should be cheaper right? No manufactuer includes interfaces with a remote start. It isnt order it as you are going to do it and they ship it to you. You get xxx amount of starters and whatever interfaces from where ever.
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^ you dont solder,what. always solder if they want it out ur only loosing maybe 1" of wire. if you dont the wire wrap methode can come loose over time and start arking causing a fire or fring componets in ur car...
think about it get a draw of 30 amps and hold wire to wire contact voltage will fluxuate...
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quote:Originally posted by pimpin at my house: ^ you dont solder,what. always solder if they want it out ur only loosing maybe 1" of wire. if you dont the wire wrap methode can come loose over time and start arking causing a fire or fring componets in ur car...
think about it get a draw of 30 amps and hold wire to wire contact voltage will fluxuate...
some people just want to be hacks at what they do. me id rather a vehicle not come back numerous times because of a poor connection.
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OK, so I am looking at some interfaces and they are all saying "requires use of a spare key to work." What exactly does that mean. Do I have to leave one of my keys inside the actual interface or something?
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quote:Originally posted by DJ Hellfire: OK, so I am looking at some interfaces and they are all saying "requires use of a spare key to work." What exactly does that mean. Do I have to leave one of my keys inside the actual interface or something?
Also, anyone have any ideas what I can wire the AUX button to operate on my Elantra. It has a cable trunk release, not electric. So I have no ideas what I can use it for. I was thinkin maybe to have the headlights come on but it wouldn't be a constant power supply to headlights. Any ideas?
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yes there has to be a programmed key installed into the transponed bypass module. AUX button could be used for window roll-up if you get the additional module for that. you could do your headlights if you wanted all youd need was a latching realy but i dont really see the point of that.
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i've used omega products for 15 years, plus never have soldered in a single one, and have never had a single problem. in short, proper placement, and taking your time in your install will work.
couldn't give me any DEI products. they die around my town everyday, and get replaced with omega
quote:Originally posted by ImmortalSPL: you could do your headlights if you wanted all youd need was a latching realy but i dont really see the point of that.
True, but I'd do it just because it can be done; just to have something else to play with!
I have another question. When I bought the Altima, it had an aftermarket alarm installed in it already, made by Audiovox. Does this mean there may already be a transponder bypass in there? Or do you not need the interface to install an alarm?
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quote:Originally posted by hulioshonda: i've used omega products for 15 years, plus never have soldered in a single one, and have never had a single problem. in short, proper placement, and taking your time in your install will work.
couldn't give me any DEI products. they die around my town everyday, and get replaced with omega
ive only been a professional installer for a little over a year now and ive seen too many cars come in that have remote starter that were installed somewhere else using NO solder connections and that worked like crap. if your not using solder your looking for trouble. im sorry i dont have any respect for a shop or an installer that chooses to do crappy work. i think quality work over quanity is more important for not only the customer but for me as an installer so im not having to fix a poor connection. not sure what your talking about when u say "proper placement". If you dont solder then what connections are you making?
back to the topic. no chances are there wont be a transponder bypass in there if its just an alarm that was installed in there.
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quote:Originally posted by hulioshonda: funny i've never had a problem. does that mean that you can't make a good connection without soldering it?
that doesnt answer the question i asked. either your just wrappring the wire around or your using scotch locks with both might give you a good connection at the time of install but will come loose over time. i know best buy doesnt solder their remote starters because they just dont care they get so much business that all they care about is getting as many starters installed as possible. understandable i guess if your just installing just to make money.
and the majority of the driving public that makes those purchases from those places don't keep their cars long enough to have many problems. and yes, i do solder the connections on my personal car, and offer the same to my customers, at a slightly higher cost, and ya know what. they, almost always prefer the lower cost method, not because of the cost, but they say " i plan to trade pretty soon, so just use the connectors".
and omega makes plug in harnesses that give you the connections you need for alot of rides.
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