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Its sad to say, but living where I live and all, I guarantee alarms or no alarms me and a friend can break into any of your cars and steal them within 3 minutes. The only proven way I have seen to GUARANTEE your car will not get stolen is probably more expensive than your system but:
Step # 1 Replace your windows with bulletproof/shatterproof glass, lol I know you laugh now, but I've seen some navigators and lexuses with it.
Step # 2 have or do it yourself, shave your door handles so your locks cannot be picked and you must have a remote door lock.
Step # 3 bolt down all your subs, so if someone does get in they cannot actually steal them
Step # 4 be the hardest motha ****a on the block, let it be known your not a person to be messed with, if you find out someone steals your stuff they will get dealt with properly. lol, step 4 is the "just incase" step.
also here in CA with my insurance, its $30.00 for one year to insure all my audio equipment for up to $1000 dollars, I know its not much, but paying 30 extra dollars for $1000 in audio equipment will atleast guarantee you to make some of your money back.
Also if you have a certain car and you want to know the easiest ways in, email me at jakebeez@yahoo.com and I can probably tell you what to secure so the average thief cannot break in. I will do this as a favor, I am not a thief and I have never stole a car, I just know a lot of people......dont ask and I wont tell.
Posts: 219 | From: San Jose, CA | Registered: Jan 2001
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quote:Most Tow-Trucks I know of just lift those turned wheels right off the ground before taking off with the vehicle.
well how could they get to the front of the car, to get to the wheels if you were parked 4inches from a wall?
If they seriously want to take your car, most towtrucks will just hook up to your car and pull it out a couple of feet, its nothing for a towtruck to pull a car with its tires locked out a couple of feet.
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Posts: 219 | From: San Jose, CA | Registered: Jan 2001
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WOW! I'm shocked that this post got a reply or two so quickly! I appreciate your very honest and informative post. Dude, even if you were a theif, your information would be valuable. Kinda makes you think how easy it is for stuff to get stolen.
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keeping someoe from stealing items from your prked car. other than the obvious...have the larm mounted in a secure location with battery back up... run interior sirens. Lots of interior sirens. like 6-10....yea, If you have ever had one in your car, you realize that it is barable, but annoying...it you have ever been in a car with ten, you had a MAJOR head ache....
Trunks, have it pined with the hood and connected to your regular alarm. Buy a delay relay, like 5 seconds, maybe use 3 of them to get 15 seconds...mount a KEYed switch in the trunk with the power to it going to relays and then to like 4 full size sirens in the trunk. Simple, you open the trunk (anytime, alarm n or not) and you don't turn the key switch, you get hit with about 155db of warbel tone...
to keep peps from stealing the whole car....have a normialy open starter kill, so if they kill the alarm, the car won't start. Fuel brake, brake lock both pedal and presure. stering wheel release, by grant, take your sterring wheel off.
my suggestion, break lock and starter kill. with a presure brake lock they couldn't tow your car with out a flat bed or cutting your break lines... and hopefuly your alarm will be going off the whole time they would be trying anything.
I am lucky, I have a garage, and when I use to daily my SPL car I had a job that would never put me in the same parking lot for more than a week... never drove it to go shopping, never went to the movies in it,never left it parked unattended for more than about 10 minuets....all of us have friends that can drive when you are all going somewhere. The hardest thing is having all that fun stuff and not trusing socity enough to be ble to park it in high theft area's.
I think the biggest part of security has been said, commonsnese. If you care about your car and it's contents, be carefull....my rule of thumb, if you don't feel safe sleeping on the pavement, where your parking,....it's probably not safe
oh, one more note, when routing wires under the hood, either hide them in frame rails OR bend metal tubing (aka, breake/fuel line) and loom the wires through it....if they can even figure out what tube your alarm wires are in....it will be harder to cut them...the key here is making the tubing look like it is suposed to be there or stock...so they won't cut it for fear of losing the breaks or spilling gas all overthemselves.
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Where can I get a good inexpensive car alarm from? any websites or stores like Circuit City, Best Buy, Radio Shack? How is the alarm going to be targeted? like if someone broke the windshield it wud go off or someone leaning against it.
Posts: 72 | From: Kinston, NC | Registered: Mar 2003
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My friend has been jacked 3 times before: once while working at the mall, the other two times right in front of his house while sleeping. They somehow disabled the alarm and took everything except for the deck.......3 days later, they came back for the deck. So from our experience: 1. Use sets of alarms, the second hooked up to a secondary battery. I use 4 sirens 2. My ignition switch is hooked up to the cigarette lighter...so unless you press the cigarette lighter, there is no way to start the car. 3. Not exactly bullet proof glass...it's many layers of compressed plastic film that is shatterproof and if thick enough, bullet proof. Applied just like tinted windows. So they can't break the window, only shadder it. 4. Use bmw like/quality door looks. Many people have skeleton keys (dealer/manager keys) that works on every vehicle. I've seen most with honda, toyota and ford. 5. Window actuator. when alarm is on the actuator pushes sideways blocking the window from rolling down...in other words thiefs cant pry the window down. Expensive but well worth it! 6. Last but not least... a LCD alarm remote. You will be notified when somebody breaks into your car and that will give you just enough time to beat them down for a few rounds before the cop comes and arrest their ass. 7. Carry a can of pepper spray to enhance the beating. Please read #6. Good luck guys.
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My friend has been jacked 3 times before: once while working at the mall, the other two times right in front of his house while sleeping. They somehow disabled the alarm and took everything except for the deck.......3 days later, they came back for the deck. So from our experience: 1. Use sets of alarms, the second hooked up to a secondary battery. I use 4 sirens 2. My ignition switch is hooked up to the cigarette lighter...so unless you press the cigarette lighter, there is no way to start the car. 3. Not exactly bullet proof glass...it's many layers of compressed plastic film that is shatterproof and if thick enough, bullet proof. Applied just like tinted windows. So they can't break the window, only shadder it. 4. Use bmw like/quality door looks. Many people have skeleton keys (dealer/manager keys) that works on every vehicle. I've seen most with honda, toyota and ford. 5. Window actuator. when alarm is on the actuator pushes sideways blocking the window from rolling down...in other words thiefs cant pry the window down. Expensive but well worth it! 6. Last but not least... a LCD alarm remote. You will be notified when somebody breaks into your car and that will give you just enough time to beat them down for a few rounds before the cop comes and arrest their ass. 7. Carry a can of pepper spray to enhance the beating. Please read #6. Good luck guys.
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My friend has been jacked 3 times before: once while working at the mall, the other two times right in front of his house while sleeping. They somehow disabled the alarm and took everything except for the deck.......3 days later, they came back for the deck. So from our experience: 1. Use sets of alarms, the second hooked up to a secondary battery. I use 4 sirens 2. My ignition switch is hooked up to the cigarette lighter...so unless you press the cigarette lighter, there is no way to start the car. 3. Not exactly bullet proof glass...it's many layers of compressed plastic film that is shatterproof and if thick enough, bullet proof. Applied just like tinted windows. So they can't break the window, only shadder it. 4. Use bmw like/quality door looks. Many people have skeleton keys (dealer/manager keys) that works on every vehicle. I've seen most with honda, toyota and ford. 5. Window actuator. when alarm is on the actuator pushes sideways blocking the window from rolling down...in other words thiefs cant pry the window down. Expensive but well worth it! 6. Last but not least... a LCD alarm remote. You will be notified when somebody breaks into your car and that will give you just enough time to beat them down for a few rounds before the cop comes and arrest their ass. 7. Carry a can of pepper spray to enhance the beating. Please read #6. Good luck guys.
Posts: 88 | From: Westminster | Registered: Jan 2003
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Actually got a few good ideas. Rent a storage locker at a storage facility. Some of them have alarms on the garage's. So chances are the police will be there before a theif gets anywhere with your equip. That is nice for people that don't use those as daily drivers. Now for the ones that do. Athough would look weird on most cars. Probaly could mount under hood. Well You know how some alarms signal the horn when going off also. Well connect semi air horns up so they sound off when going off. Those WILL draw attention. Hey if you can fit it and have enough batteries and OEM train horn is always nice also!
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I didn't have time to read through everything so somethings I'm going to list might have been said already.
1. I thought about the razor blades then decided against it, definate law suit.
2. Security screws: torx or allen or better yet torx AND allen, mix metric and standard. The problem with hex is a thief might carry pliers. Torx and allen have round outers and are hard to grab with pliers.
2.5 I'm sure somewhere in the world there is a thief that carries a small tool box with pliers, bolt cutters, allen wrench and torx assortment, etc. To stop this you could use a cable or something like the Kriptonite New York Lock (made for bikes) to secure your subs. Run it into the box, seal with silicone, through the frame of the sub, secure with zip ties, through the divider, the other sub and back out. Have the ends of the cable wrap around a seat leg and meet under the seat, put the lock through both ends of the cable and something under the seat such as the seat release rod. The cable could also be run through the amps with some mods.
3. I completely removed my in car hood release, ya its outside, but you would never find it.
4. Get cable or chain locks for the hood and trunk. These are just long enough to reach inside and unlock with a key once the hood or trunk is open.
5. In addition to the fuel cutoff, get an ignition cutoff switch, most stop the engine from turning over, this is not what you want, if a thief breaks the steering column, turns the ignition and nothing happens he will know you have a kill switch and start looking for it. Get a kill switch that lets the engine turn over just not fire, a thief will just think the engine won't start.
6. There are systems that release large amount of smoke inside a car so a thief can't see.
7. Do NOT use the wheel locks that are one solid piece of steel with the special cutout that your key fits, these can still be grabbed on the outside with Visegrips and possibly turned if they are not too tight. Get Gorilla brand wheel locks, they are two piece and have an outer shell that spins freely.
8. I've seen some HUs that were slightly resessed and the person cut off the very front of a factory HU and placed it over the aftermarket one when parked.
9. I have an after market HU (I remove the face) and an in dash EQ. I made a flap out black duct tape that hangs from the bottom of the HU and covers the EQ. You can't tell there's an Eq, it just looks like a guetto install, which is what I want.
10. Keep a 120lb. Pit Bull in your back seat.
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quote:Originally posted by jakebeez: If they seriously want to take your car, most towtrucks will just hook up to your car and pull it out a couple of feet, its nothing for a towtruck to pull a car with its tires locked out a couple of feet.
VERY TRUE. If you've ever seen the show "Repossessors" on Discovery channel, you'd be amazed at how easy those bastards can pick into ANY given car and 'steal' it from the owner. They will strap a FWD car backwards into a tow truck and let the tires screetch for about half a block and do the business. Makes you wonder--- how easy WOULD IT BE to steal your car????
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You slam your car to the ground (so no one can get under it), shave the doors (so no one can just unlock them) and get those plexi windows you can hit with a hammer and you wont breakem?
itd be rather hard to get into the car dont you think? also it would look cool IMO
also if you can trick the poppers in the door sorta extend the edge of the door a good inch or so over so thatyou cant just stick the jimmy or whatever into the slot
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Great Tips!!!! Just to add a couple thoughts though... When I installed my stereo, I purposely made it easy enough for a thief to steal my stereo. I know it sounds stupid but, I would rather let the thief take my system witout causing hundreds or thousands of dollars in damage to my car. This doesn't mean that I advertise my system or don't have an alarm, but I just prefer them to not cause any damage to my ride because, sad as it sounds, my car is my life. I don't know what I would do without it. Then again my insurance company will cover any equipment stolen from my vehicle, so I really don't worry too much. Great post though and thanks for the tips!!! Posts: 19 | From: Canada | Registered: Jun 2002
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Hi Great data Thanks! As always, common sense is very scarce and every kid pounding around gets robbed in matter of days... Low profile is the best weapon we car audio fans have and it cant be bought nor sold... And that license plate covering-disguising thing is a great idea Thanks and pound low profile
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sepp: [QB] Lately, I've been hearing a lot of systems getting jacked, and it hurts to see people working hard for their equipment just for someone to jack it. I've been installing car audio systems for about 6 years, lived in 3 different ghetto apartments in LA but I have YET to lose a single strand of wire to the thieves. (knock on wood) Never say Never, but if you follow these tips, your chance of getting broken into will be nearly impossible. Please feel free to add more to this list!
(How many times?) Were there any attempts at your stuff that your aware of?
Posts: 205 | From: Warren, OH | Registered: Apr 2001
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quote:Originally posted by KickerL5Freak: just a thought BUT what if
You slam your car to the ground (so no one can get under it), shave the doors (so no one can just unlock them) and get those plexi windows you can hit with a hammer and you wont breakem?
itd be rather hard to get into the car dont you think? also it would look cool IMO
also if you can trick the poppers in the door sorta extend the edge of the door a good inch or so over so thatyou cant just stick the jimmy or whatever into the slot
I used to have a slammed s-10 Blazer that was almost impossible for a tow truck to pick up. I had to have it towed many times. It was almost impossible to get a jack under it also. I think I was the only one that knew the trick.
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quote:Originally posted by BeastWatcher: SEPP ....you have mentioned some great stuff here. I never thought about my license plate in the site ..I will have to black it out!!! And relocating the Alarm will be done in the next couple of weeks. I will extend all my wires and place somewhere else, just dont know where yet. I have been jacked twice, once I caught them and the second they took the whole thing. I would not like this to happen again. As far as the sirens go you are right the thieves cut out my wire from under the hood so that they would have complete silence while disabling my alarm brain that as you have said was located under the driver dash!! I have alot of work to do to make it harder to steal but hell its more than worth it if it means keeping my gear. Thanks again and if anyone else has any more good ideas please post them. Thanks and SEE YA!!
Team Bio - Greg.. In Germany??????????????? I though Team "Bio" is in Nor Cal?
Just bumpin this thread. [u]IF YOU HAVEN'T INSTALLED AN ALARM YET, GO DO IT. NOW![/u]
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