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From what I understand of the issue of Code Grabbing, it started with Clifford Electronics. Grapevine rumour has it that Clifford had built 4 code grabbing devices to use for demonstration of their new technology (at the time). From what I understand, Vehicle Security technology had reached a climax with "field sensor" technology, and the competition with other brands needed a new twist. So it was that Clifford designed a new propriotory system to incorporate in their models and boost their sales, while (indirectly) instilling fear in non-Clifford users. Of course other manufacturers designed their own similar systems in order to compete. But no one has yet had a vehicle stolen (from what I know so far) by use of a Code Grabbing Device. Anyone with input on this?
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I remember when this all started. Our clifford rep came in and told us all about they're new technology, claiming vehicles HAD been stolen in this way. I didn't for a moment believe that it could be done, grabbing a code out of the air, then he used our scope and a black box and grabbed the code for my alarm, and proved that it did indeed work. He also showed us how, using the same black box, how to grab a cellular ESN, and clone it to a motorola phone. I asked if I could get one of those neat black boxes! Anyway, he had a display of the new avantguardII (I think) with the code hopper remotes and did a demo of how it worked, grabbing the code 4 times, and comparing it each time. It was kind of cool, but I noticed that every time the code changed, it hopped consistently, and pointed out that it could be anticipated and still work to grab the code. He got kind of mad at me for that. Guess I wasn't supposed to notice that it didn't hop randomly as they stated...
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My personal take is that Code Grabbing is the biggest hoax to hit the alarm scene and stick around. Now it's hard to find one that doesn't hop.
I remember how the Viper's were almost impossible to get back in sync if the remote was pressed too many times away from the car and how the early Cliffords all hopped the same and there were instances where you could activate someone ELSE's Clifford with YOUR remote!
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