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Jeffyboy
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When I was hooking up my MTX 2300 (old style) I was in the dilemma of not having any 6 gauge wire available and terminals that took 6 gauge maximum. So, I bought 4 gauge, stripped off how much I needed, cut the insluation down another 1" in two different places, peeled it back, cut away some of the strands while leaving around a 6 gauge amount, folded the insulation up, and heat shrinked the area that I cut. This worked great and looks pretty good.

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I have seen similar stuff done more then once. I dont see what a difference that can make since it is not like you are taking that amount of wire off the entire legenth the cable and the span that is removed is so damn small. I would think it would make no difference as long as the remaining wires are strong and secure.

Anyone else have proof or opinion or fact?

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Hey,

I don't think it makes any difference at all. Think about a fuse. You've got large gauge wire with a litle tiny filament stuck in the middle. Because it's so short, the resistance on the wire isn't affected at all. I found this to work well when you've got an amp that's going to **** a bunch of power but doesn't have big enough terminals for the wire you want to use. I would have used 6 gauge if I could have found it, but it doesn't seem like anyone has it.

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Jeffy...ya know never thought about it like that. But does make sense.

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One thing I forgot to mention about this method compared to simply cutting surrounding strands off, there aren't any extra strands that could cause a short or anything like that since you're cutting them off below the insulation.

Jeff


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I've done the same thing a couple of times and it doesn't make any differance at all.
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They also make crimp on terminals that adapt 4g down to 8g for just the same reason ..but the way you did it works just the same and heatshrink is cheaper than a gold 4g crimp connector....
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Kinda off the subject, but this is what I have found from experience about resistance. About the resistance in a wire, every time you put a splice in a wire (fuse block or whater) there is more resistance. Agu fuses and Maxi fuses are bad if you have an amp that takes alot of power. The block creates resistance and therefore it takes more power to get the same amout of power out the other side of the block. for example, take a garden hose and squeeze it and less water comes out, so it would take more presure to get the same amount of water out the other end.

anyone have another fact or opnion about resistance? I would like to hear what other people think this about this...

[This message has been edited by Eric (edited 12-15-1999).]


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Eric you are more or less right. The more connection in the line you have the more resistence there is the potential to be. But in this case we are talking about a extremely small part. Not even to the size of a fuse. But ya you are basically right. Everything is relative though.

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"relatively" speaking, wouldn't using 4 gauge and cutting down the end to fit the terminals make less resistance than using 6 or 8 gauge? Makes sense to me . . . opinions?

Jeff


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I know that two well known manufacturers managed to get higher power output out of their head units by simply increasing the power and ground wire guage. The specifications jumped up by 5 watts, from 30W to 35w/ch. using the same amplifier.

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Eli...I have heard the same. Also if when playing the system and the head unit dims a little. Increasing the size of the power and gound can help stop that or putting a VERY small cap inline. Heck my car is factory for now and it dims..lol

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