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kraven moorehead
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i had the same dilema with my xterra when i first built it i had the subs stacked on an angle but opposite of yours instead of the bottom being angled out i had the top one angled out and when i changed it out to stacked i actually went down by a full db with some work in the box i got it back but was thinking about putting it back the way that it was. how big is the inside of your box and port size. my enclosure is also not square but a polyhydron on the top and more or less square on the botttom, box size 27 cuft and port 461 sqin freq 57-61hz depending where i am.

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quote:
Originally posted by kraven moorehead:
i had the same dilema with my xterra when i first built it i had the subs stacked on an angle but opposite of yours instead of the bottom being angled out i had the top one angled out and when i changed it out to stacked i actually went down by a full db with some work in the box i got it back but was thinking about putting it back the way that it was. how big is the inside of your box and port size. my enclosure is also not square but a polyhydron on the top and more or less square on the botttom, box size 27 cuft and port 461 sqin freq 57-61hz depending where i am.

Well my box is tiny lol
Around 16.4 cuft and tuned to 68hz so far ...

Port is around 300 x 840mm and like baffle 75mm long ...

First time in my life im working with fiberglass [Big Grin]

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nice work for the first time. make sure that it is very very smooth that will help. how are you planning on rounding off the end of the baffle

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Dude, all you had to do was resine the box but you did do a good job on the fiberglass.
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Well

Work still in progress ... a little bit every day (had couple days off [Razz] :

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The worse part will be tomorrow ... sandling again [Frown]

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Don't breath that stuff, please.
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Build looks good, I would get some 16v batts if your amps can handle them which I'm sure they can, as long as you turn them on with 12v. after bracing and polyester you should see some more db's.

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What ive heard these amps are not capable over 15 volts, they go onto protection then ... Thats the reason i never thought to go over 12v system ...

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The wood you use is not the best material for enclosure applications It has low density and needs a lot of resin to become solid...You should use MDF boards 30mm or thicker or steel plates if you can...

You should definetely put a brace behind the wall...There should be a hole db in it by using it...

What is the nominal impedance of the subs?

The way i see it the box is good as long as the volume is concerned...You should focus on the thickness and the deadening...
How many wires do you run?

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quote:
Originally posted by thanosdbfan:
The wood you use is not the best material for enclosure applications It has low density and needs a lot of resin to become solid...You should use MDF boards 30mm or thicker or steel plates if you can...

You should definetely put a brace behind the wall...There should be a hole db in it by using it...

What is the nominal impedance of the subs?

The way i see it the box is good as long as the volume is concerned...You should focus on the thickness and the deadening...
How many wires do you run?

Hey [Smile]

As its low budget build i had to use 1" ply, could find any thicker ply or MDF in the whole country lol
Baffle and back wall are 3" rest of it 2" thick

Subs are dual 1's, so running 2 x 4gauge cables per sub (8 gauge just before sub for split).

Latest pic, need a floor mat and door seals now [Big Grin]

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Next testday will be this saturday i hope [Smile]

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That box looks much better, congrats.
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Looks better indeed...I would use another plate in the wall so that the subs are flushed.

I was asking about the number of power wire runs not the speaker wire

How smooth is the box indide?

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quote:
Originally posted by thanosdbfan:
Looks better indeed...I would use another plate in the wall so that the subs are flushed.

I was asking about the number of power wire runs not the speaker wire

How smooth is the box indide?

The work is in progress to get the box a smooth as possible [Smile]
Was a bit lazy for couple weeks ..

Old pic of powercables:

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For now the cables are in the left side of the boot but similar to the old install ...

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you want a good gain? instead of thinking of a 45 angle....do a taper behind the subs starting at the baffle extending to about 8" out to meet the rear wall, this will move your wave over to concentrate loading at the center of the rear wall...if its solid and you see a gain then try the other side \_/...kinda like this just not such defined angles

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This does't work on Pandas/Marbellas...Already tried it and lost...

But then you can always test and see for yourself...

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The build since last nov:

Well, a bit work done, not tested yet after fiber glassing ...

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wonderfull
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You know that you can use a head-unit podium at competitions right?

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quote:
Originally posted by thanosdbfan:
You know that you can use a head-unit podium at competitions right?

I think it was allowed in SS class, thanks for that [Smile]

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This car is looking for 2 x Stetsom 10kd or similar amps now !
MAke me a reasonable offers please, as recession hit us all ....

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Few days ago was testing her and ended up with a big happy smile on my face [Smile]

Had only 1h to test so made 5 burps.

Noone was holding the doors/windows and both seats up, i wasnt IN the car !

Was testing 68-70hz and the loudest was 69hz (68 before fiberglassing)

Every burp was over 158db on a termlab

So now final job is to take the subs out and sand it propably, as the box is faaaaar from smooth ....

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Oh and YES, these subs need some more POWER [Razz]

At the moment amps strapped and seeing around 0.125 ohm each for burps ...

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How many watts are your amps now?
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