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Fresh off of a ban on ECA courtesy of one Matt Hall...we need to get this place pumping again.

What can we do to get this place to be SQ central?

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First you need to repeat after me. "I will not hurt anyone's feelings, I will not hurt anyone's feelings..."
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I can't call you names and hurt feelings until after I get the DAC1 back...and Kevin is supposed to (or said he might) send you a P9 to convert to coax for me.

Can't talk back until those come home...lol.

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Don't worry about me, I'm not going to get butthurt just becuase you tell me I don't know anything, or that my car sounds like shiz. I already know those things
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don't tell you that you haven't done anything in years and all is good huh? you got power here.....yikes!!! [Big Grin]
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I will ban you Bill! Don't make me do that to another teammate...cause I will abuse, I mean use my powers to do it.

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k boss [Blob] i guess the pot don't come here either huh....
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quote:
Originally posted by winslow:
...until after I get the DAC1 back...

Winslow -

Are external / in-line DACs coming back into vogue in SQ? I remember when DAC-in-the-Box used to be a popular add-in with the home audio community & there were some high-end DACs for car audio too. But, I thought that many manufacturers were working to make their head units w/"beefier" DACs.

Do they help out with the AAC / MP3 / WMA files that many people use on their media players & port to their head-units or CD-Rs?

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Well I been here for years now. And SQ has never been a strong point. Still my favorite forum.

I think we need more driver discussions. I know it's better to go out and listen to drivers......and yes some people may be more opinionated than others....... but discussing some reveiws of some drivers or sharing hands on knowledge instead giving blague responses might yeild more participation. (Is that one sentence [What] )

Again I really do like this forum. People here are great. But I love SQ and I'd love to make this the happenin place.

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Ber, that DAC is for my home system. Jeremy has already modded a Bel Canto DAC2 for me and is working on some super cook stuff for the Benchmark DAC1 I have. But no, I wouldn't think there would be much help for those formats once they have been converted and compressed. The big thing that holds the iPod back from a serious SQ source unit (or what I've read on the home forums) is the volume control more than the DAC section. The DAC section (again from what I've read) isn't bad, but it's not the be-all-end-all of DACs. So a lot of the home guys like Red Wine Audio are making new volume controls and might be doing DACs for them too.

It is hard to do driver discussions without buying the drivers, building the optimal enclosures, making the optimal crossovers etc...and having some test data wouldn't be a bad thing either. If you are wanting a load of driver tests and test data, the best place for home audio speakers would be Zapaudio's site.

For car drivers we would have to work on that one. If there was some way to wrangle some drivers and send them to a few folks who you know and trust for listening, then that would be the best way to do that.

Any ideas?

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I think a lot of manufacturers put better DACs in purely for marketing. They added a buck or 2 in parts then could slap a "24 bit DAC!!!!" on the box. When that good DAC still went through the same horrible analog stages that the old DAC went through.

A good DAC (and associated good analog stages) could really only improve lossless formats IMO. Anythign that could be returned back to the original datastream by use of DSP or processor. Most of these units have built in decoder/DAC combos so you really don't know what is going on inside them.

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What is the address of the Zapaudio site you speak of? The only one I found from google was only available in languages other than English. I took a few french classes but I am not fluent enough to understand everything [Smile]

I've been an SPL guy for a long time but due to one of my co-workers SQ past I've learned a lot and established a genuine interest in sound quality. I'd be glad to be a part of building this forum up as the information central for SQ. Perhaps we could get Gary and Mark as well as some of the other big names in here from time to time.

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www.zaphaudio.com

Some very cool stuff there.

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Thanks.

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Good lord, you guys are lifers, huh?
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I've had some interest in SQ for awhile myself. I plan on doing my daily car as my SQ setup.
So...I'll be here asking noob questions lol

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Ask any and everything you want. Make a new post so we can address each thing.

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There you are, and Andy too huh.

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There goes the neighborhood [Smile]

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Oh man, thats the welcome I get? This must be a tough place to hang out.

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lmfao. oh snap, looks like i'll be frequenting termpro once again. [Embarrassed]

quote:
Originally posted by winslow:
What can we do to get this place to be SQ central?

change it's name to something other than termpro. but speaking of SQ central, winslow, get at me on AIM or something.

[ 05-19-2007, 03:08 PM: Message edited by: deaf tones ]

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quote:
Originally posted by winslow:
So what kind of trouble can, should we start here?

how about MH = bitchmade and now on shirley temple deluxe status.

discuss...

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it would all be for nothing without my favorite cawk-smoker NAvi


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Wait, it gets better.

What's up hippie? Heard you had some VW loving going on down there...I need to check it out sometime. Finally making some progress on my car too, but school starts back monday, and that will come to an end too (progress on the car).

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Oh man, thats the welcome I get? This must be a tough place to hang out.



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I'm not touching that one publically...he knows what he did was strickly out of a personal agenda, and there was no grounds for banning based on what I said.

I'll try to get at you on IM sometime soon.

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quote:
Originally posted by winslow:
So what kind of trouble can, should we start here?

how about MH = bitchmade and now on shirley temple deluxe status.

discuss...



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haha, word. You heading west for marv's BBQ?

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