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dB Don
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Who makes subwoofers that fit this description or close? If you know of any please post but only keep it technical and unbiased. Any posts which are speculation, bashing and/or advertising will be deleted.


-4" coil, copper, flatwound or bifilar aluminum on black anodized aluminum former.
-electrical x-max of 30+mm(more the better)
-mechanical x-max(xmech) of 60+mm
-10" or bigger spider with tinsel leads incorporated into the spider system.
-2000+wrms
-Available in a multitude of coil options(D1,D2,D4....etc)
-lower than usual MMS
-Some sort of cooling for the coil(pole vent, top plate venting, forced air cooling, infrared temp sensor not needed but sweet to have(one of my designs haha) ... ETC)


Heres your chance to put the spot light on your favorite product.

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I think that crossfire xs-spl subs do and believe it or not you can actually get these in 10's cause I have the first pair built of course you have to order them cause the are all custom built to your options with up to 8 spiders stiffys or softys 3 inches of xmax for the 10's and more for the 12's 15's and the 18's have 4.5 inches of xmax they all handle 2000 rms and 10000 watt burps but my tens only have the doubly stacked magnet so they are kinda of like a hybrid and handle 7500 watts on a burp but they are nice subs all of them are
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Audio Pulse LMS Ultra woofers. The site says a 4" coil with 10" suspension. I also believe that they offer dual 4's, 2's, 1's and also quad coils. I don't know a whole lot about them, but if you can get in contact with Mike Singer. His comp name is Team Db Linc-Ss Audio. He runs Audio Pulse woofers, but is currently using TC Sounds woofers in his Eclipse.

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iirc audiopulse is out of business?
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Their woofers can still be had from Robot Underground and also Partsexpress. Robot Underground actually recones old Audio Pulse woofers and they build them from parts that they bought.

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-According to crossfires site they are 3" coils on the xs-spl's.

-Audio pulse is out of business I am told.

Anything else?

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can you pm me details how to get in contact with "robot underground"
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have a word with stany about atomics [Wink] he had prototypes ages ago, so they may be ready for production [Smile]

cactus/trf/etc
ground zero spl
tc sounds variants (lots of these, one of which is the GZSPL i think?)

i think tsns (or whatever the demuth new beasty is)

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They have a site on Ebay. That's what Mike from Db Linc was telling me. Check em out there they're under robot underground and juicy robot. They're both ebay stores.

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TRF's are not produced anymore I think. Ebay dealers are sketchy at best. So we have Cactus, Orion, Ground Zero and a possible T3 sub?

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Is the SS XXX still being made? Great daily version of the 4hp.

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Don.. this sounds like you're looking for your "ideal" sub... so it's got me wondering, how many of these requirements did the Inhumans meet?

I'm pretty sure it had the following:

-4" coil, copper, flatwound or bifilar aluminum on black anodized aluminum former.
-2000+wrms
-Available in a multitude of coil options(D1,D2,D4....etc)
-Some sort of cooling for the coil

But I'm not sure about:

-electrical x-max of 30+mm(more the better)
-mechanical x-max(xmech) of 60+mm
-10" or bigger spider with tinsel leads incorporated into the spider system.
-lower than usual MMS

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Does a 5" coil qualify?
[Big Grin]

The TSNS has these qualities that you mentioned above.

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yeah, as an anchor

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Since the title of the thread is "Subwoofers with a 4" coil", I will mention that the MTX 9500 and the Rockford Fosgate T2 series woofers both use 4" coils - But neither comes anywhere close to meeting your other posted requirements.

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Atomic APXX subs are there with 4" coils - motors
Also the Atomic 24" ELE is with 4" coil - motor
Can be build for BR applications

Also the other specs they meet in a way

For Bass Race there are even other coils availlable ( Email or PM or you know how to reach me Don for more info )

What the 24" can do for fun : ( is now a 153.6 Db , still for Fun , big fun , lol )

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=6tGm_RkvNAk

How it was builded up :

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=ouM847PSX08

A Q1 APXX 4" coil version on the 220 V wallsocket :

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=VFvYqYEAGj0


And Don , get ones to me anyway , i like to have something settled from ages ago now [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by JordyO:
Don.. this sounds like you're looking for your "ideal" sub... so it's got me wondering, how many of these requirements did the Inhumans meet?

I'm pretty sure it had the following:

-4" coil, copper, flatwound or bifilar aluminum on black anodized aluminum former.
-2000+wrms
-Available in a multitude of coil options(D1,D2,D4....etc)
-Some sort of cooling for the coil

But I'm not sure about:

-electrical x-max of 30+mm(more the better)
-mechanical x-max(xmech) of 60+mm
-10" or bigger spider with tinsel leads incorporated into the spider system.
-lower than usual MMS

No the inhumans were only 3" coil and ya I am sorta looking for my ideal subwoofer but at the same time making it known that these are the future for an ideal bass race subwoofer. Especially some tricks made by me back in the day like electronic forced air cooling and or digital IR thermal temperature gauge.

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quote:
Originally posted by J.DEMUTH:
Does a 5" coil qualify?
[Big Grin]

The TSNS has these qualities that you mentioned above.

Is there any pictures or specs of this woofer? It sounds like its got some serious thermal power handling

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quote:
Originally posted by stany:
Atomic APXX subs are there with 4" coils - motors
Also the Atomic 24" ELE is with 4" coil - motor
Can be build for BR applications

Also the other specs they meet in a way

For Bass Race there are even other coils availlable ( Email or PM or you know how to reach me Don for more info )

What the 24" can do for fun : ( is now a 153.6 Db , still for Fun , big fun , lol )

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=6tGm_RkvNAk

How it was builded up :

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=ouM847PSX08

A Q1 APXX 4" coil version on the 220 V wallsocket :

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=VFvYqYEAGj0


And Don , get ones to me anyway , i like to have something settled from ages ago now [Smile]

that apxx with a 4" coil looks like it took the outlet quite well despite leads sparking.

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quote:
Originally posted by clkwrkorg36:
yeah, as an anchor

The guys overseas like em'.

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problem is 5" coil only you will have recones and when you run out then what?
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oh those guys

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So what your saying is there is virtually no good choices currently in production other than a few like Cactus, Orion Atomic and T3?

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quote:
Originally posted by dB Don:
So what your saying is there is virtually no good choices currently in production other than a few like Cactus, Orion Atomic and T3?

I own two of the D2 12" Orion HCCAs, and I can tell you that they are really durable drivers that take a hell of a beating. SQ and Efficiency wise they leave something to be desired, and of course they weigh a ton, but for abusive situations like bass racing, they are really great woofers. Plus field replaceable cones.

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Other woofers with 4" coils:

Treo SSX
Treo CXT
RE Audio MX
RD Audio Super Heavyweight SPL

And Hifonics also had that short lived field serviceable woofer with a 4" coil - I forget the name however.

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