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anyone have stroker 12's? how low do they go ???? i need something that can handle alot of abuse...what numbers ya hitting.
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I have 2 stroker 15's and a stroker 12. How low can they go? As low as you want them to. It all depends on where you tune it too. The lower the tuning, the lower the bass will go. Standard tuning is from 35-42hz, and either way, at 35 or 42hz tuning, the subs will still go low enough to play every note that music has to offer. At one point I had my 15's tuned to 24.9hz and they peaked at 33hz! I have had the 15's for 3 years now, and they haven't had to be reconed yet. They have seen anywhere from 1,000-2,000watts for daily driving, everyday. They have had 4,000+ burped on them and they sre still pounding strong. The have been in 10 different boxes ranging from 4-20cubes per sub, and tuned anywhere from 24.9hz to 71hz. I have hit 157's w/2 15's and a 2000x, and haven't gotten the 12 metered yet, but I have seen several competitors scores. I saw a single stroker 12, in a 3.5cu box with 1 6" port, powered by an mtx 1000d, do a 147.1 certified. I have seen 2 12's and a US-2000 do 153.5 certified in a rather small looking box. Those are all scores using the recommmended enclosures or SMALLER in the street class. I haven't seen the 12's used in the other classes really, cept. Ex. 13+. Strokers can take power all day long with ease. I once demoed my truck for 3 straight hours at my buddy's shop, pushing about 1,600watts to each sub the whole time, and they are fine. These subs can take a lickin' and keep on tickin'. Right now I need an amp for my 12, and depending how much I give them, hopefully about 1,000watts, I am looking to do 147's also. I plan on using a 4cube box with 48in of port tuned to 40hz. I also am going to try a 10cube box with 200in of port and see what the 1 12 can do in my van. I am looking to turn some heads cause I can get a big box for the 12( 12's if I get another) and still be in street, and we all know what kind of numbers these vans can do. I hope I helped a little, and if you want ny more info on the subs you can e-mail me.
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I used Stroker 12's for a while in a large low tuned enclosure. They crapped out pretty early not hitting the good stuff. The Avalon's and Audiomobile's reach what seems like a full octave lower in the same enclosure.
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quote:Originally posted by Conclusive: I used Stroker 12's for a while in a large low tuned enclosure. They crapped out pretty early not hitting the good stuff. The Avalon's and Audiomobile's reach what seems like a full octave lower in the same enclosure.
Damn that sucks. I heard to from Micheal (Big Oki) too, that the 12's dont have the lowend that the other subs do. Like I said, i haven't gotten mine in, so I don't know myself, but I did hear the kid's who did the 147 w/1 12, and it seemed to play fine, ( used recommended enclosure tuned to 40hz, but only a 6" port?)although I didn't have anything to compare it to. Chad, what exaclty was the box you used? How big and tuned to what? I was going to use a 4cube box with 48in tuned around 40hz, you don't think it'll play well? I will have to compare it to the Vega 12's once I build the boxes for both. I used the Vegas before, and they go as low as any. Shouldn't the strokers be able to too? I am so anxious to get it hooked up. I'll have to see for myself.
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I just looked an the Fs of the Vega 12 is 23hz and the Fs of the Stroker 12 is 51hz, which is alot higher, but it still should go low, maybe not as low, but it'll still sound good won't it? I don't really care, I'll be happy no matter what. By the way the 147 was @50hz and the 153 was @53hz, so that's pretty loud for that frequency and that's what i'm looking for I guess. I bought it for $100, I couldn't pass it up. I also wanted to try street 1-2 with a minivan, cause I can fit a huge box, huge port, and get the minivan gain( use 50-55hz note), just for fun. I can't wait, and i'll let everyone else know when I know too. Especially if it's a good score.
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quote:Originally posted by Jay Gold: I just looked an the Fs of the Vega 12 is 23hz and the Fs of the Stroker 12 is 51hz, which is alot higher, but it still should go low, maybe not as low, but it'll still sound good won't it? I don't really care, I'll be happy no matter what. By the way the 147 was @50hz and the 153 was @53hz, so that's pretty loud for that frequency and that's what i'm looking for I guess. I bought it for $100, I couldn't pass it up. I also wanted to try street 1-2 with a minivan, cause I can fit a huge box, huge port, and get the minivan gain( use 50-55hz note), just for fun. I can't wait, and i'll let everyone else know when I know too. Especially if it's a good score.
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yea pls do that...
I have a stroker 12" in a 2,75 cube box (without displacements) tuned to 42 Hz. with 25 in^2 of port... i've only tried it on my 4ch. amp. (150Wrms for sub) it sounded like ****, i know it must have much more power. But i thought it should play a little loud... but it didn't... I'm getting a new sub amp next month, i hope it will perform better, !
quote:Originally posted by Carstereo Carsten:i've only tried it on my 4ch. amp. (150Wrms for sub) it sounded like ****, i know it must have much more power.
You need major power for strokers, but the out come is nice. If you don't have around 800 watts or more, then your not going to get the best out of the sub. 1,500 watts would be best
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sometimes they dont get loud to the meter due to installation, but they ALWAYS stay loud as hell to the ear, let me tell ya, i held the termpro mic in an escort with 2 15"D4's with 2 RF BD1000a's and then we switched to 2 strapped memphis 1000d's, all i know is that it kicked a$$ but the meter didnt like non-wall cars!
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quote:Originally posted by Texasbanger: but how do the 12's sound ?
The single 12 I heard played fine. It was tuned to 40hz. He play a couple techno tracks and some 3-6 mafia, and it sounded like I was listening to the Vegas, atleast from what I remeber them sounding like. 150watts will barely move that sub, not too mention the box and port is too small. They need 3.5 cubes and 48in of port. The frequency response of the stroker 12 is 40~200hz, and the Vega 12 is 20~200hz. The stroker 12 doesn't go as low as the Vega. I'm sure with the right box and tuning that you can get adequate low-end response. I had 200watts on my 15's, 400 total to the pair, and they sounded just as good as they do with more power. I think that the problem was mainly in the box. It's seems that depending on the tuning, the strokers might have trouble under 40hz, but will still play fine. I'm going to build my box and see for myself. I know it's going to work out just fine. If it sounds anything like the Kid w/1 12, then I'll be happy as ever. He was running about 1,400, and I'll probably have about the same, depending on what amp I use to power it with. For comps, I will power it with a 2000x@2ohm.
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