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[meph]
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im getting a new ride soon (yay. finally), and since its a blazer it has lots of room. i am really considering getting like 10+ low end 15s and dumping 400watts into each of them. 10subs always gives the awe factor and im sure w/ 4kwatts total that it'd get really loud. only problem being that the subs alone would run at least $1k

with $1k i could get a DD Beast (4kwatt daily driving i doubt), 2 9515's, or 4 3515s.

i'm confused as far as what to do. (DISCLAIMER: im just stating DD as a known big hitter and for price ranges, not for preference)

anyones input is asked for. or opinions on what a good 4kwatt AWE factor would be.. thx

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one audiobahn 34" titanium!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by PimpDaddy:
one audiobahn 34" titanium!!!


Here in the problem lies though.
Probelm 1, Audiobahn. Good Beginner Sub, but for the cash you can do a lot better.

Problem 2, with a sub that large, there would be no top end punch no tight accurate bass. Just a jumbled mess of sloppy bass. IMO- those large woofers are really not very good for much as they are so limited by thier size.

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that and i don't like audiobahn that much =)

anyway.. anyone elses opinions?

common ppl. =) i know you like to give your opinions.. hehe

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hrm... great grand wonderful......... =(

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What is your idea of a low end sub? 4 - 6 image or jls would be under $1000, if those are considered low-end. High end expensive ones can be more flexible when more money for more power comes into play..... I'd get expensive subs and amp them like crazy and buy more subs on the next payday, who needs to pay for a car and rent?

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quote:
Originally posted by Below Reality:
Probelm 1, Audiobahn. Good Beginner Sub, but for the cash you can do a lot better.



Belive that if you want to

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How about some 15W3's... just a suggestion

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i bet you knew this was coming- AT xtreme, the thread just isnt right without AT being mentioned

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i think it depends on weather you plan on competing or not. if you want to compete with 4k watts than you are only gonna wanna be running 2 or 4 subs in big ported boxes to have a chance. i would say screw competing and run something like 10 image dynamics idq, or adire audio shiva in sealed boxes. yes the peak output will be lower, but the sq will be amazing and trust me you will love it. we did and install with 12 10" diamond m5 sealed with 150 watts each and yes it only hit 150, but that thing could knock the wind out of you. hit alot harder than cars with ported set-ups hitting high 150's. plus no worries on over-excursion, playing below tuning, etc. i wish more people would run set-ups like this.
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Pyramid? SuperPro? j/k

For the money, you could go with some sony, pioneer, Concept(im doing a full concept system), Kicker Comps, and just a whole lot of them out there.

FOr amps, go with a class d since your going to be going for all that power,

im going to run 3 concept ex 12's of their ccd2400 in my car and its going to be sick

What other plans do you have for it?

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earthquake db 15s there loud and cheap and not very hard to power. or there dbx extremes

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For a single sub with that power, I'd wait for db Don's PSI to come out, it would be over a grand, but believe me, it would be worth it. And it will take 4k for daily use.

For a bunch of subs, you could run JL W0s, Shivas, Stryke's low end subs, RF Punch Z or HE, or many others. Hell, you could even run a pile of 6.5" drivers, like 32 of them.

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I'd say go for alot of subs. That would just be awesome and loud. Maybe you could find a bunch of ShockerII's, 10 of those would slam.

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What about doing like 8 Cerwin Vega 124's and 2 DEI 1100D's to run them. You could run each amp 1 ohm mono with 4 of the subs on each.

Vega 124 $120.00ish
DEI 1100D $400.00ish

I think this would get pretty loud. IMO
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those new kenwood db subs seem to sound pretty good, theres a thought also.

personally, i saw go for the awe factor. with ten plus subs it will be loud, even with cheap subs. and you don't have to overpower them to do it. so go for it. i've got a small car so i'm going in the opp. direction.

use one big sub and one big box to blow away other people running 4 12's or something.

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Ok, this is what ya do..
Grab about 5 or 6 Vega series 12's. hook about 400 or 500 watts up to em and put them in a sealed box.

I say sealed box because with a sealed enclosure, you FEEL the bass alot more than a ported but a ported is way louder. If you dont plan on competing, go sealed. If you do plan on competing, this isn't the setup for you.


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quote:
Originally posted by mbrennan5:
i think it depends on weather you plan on competing or not. if you want to compete with 4k watts than you are only gonna wanna be running 2 or 4 subs in big ported boxes to have a chance. i would say screw competing and run something like 10 image dynamics idq, or adire audio shiva in sealed boxes. yes the peak output will be lower, but the sq will be amazing and trust me you will love it. we did and install with 12 10" diamond m5 sealed with 150 watts each and yes it only hit 150, but that thing could knock the wind out of you. hit alot harder than cars with ported set-ups hitting high 150's. plus no worries on over-excursion, playing below tuning, etc. i wish more people would run set-ups like this.
matt


Thats a good idea. I might do that if i get a ride with enuff room. I would love to do that.

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i think im going to go w/ the "awe" factor and run b/t 12 and 20 15s.. =) anyone got a pile of 15's for sale cheap?
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quote:
Originally posted by Argyle:
Ok, this is what ya do..
Grab about 5 or 6 Vega series 12's. hook about 400 or 500 watts up to em and put them in a sealed box.

I say sealed box because with a sealed enclosure, you FEEL the bass alot more than a ported but a ported is way louder. If you dont plan on competing, go sealed. If you do plan on competing, this isn't the setup for you.


the vega series subs are GREAT, but there's no way in he| | would i ever put one in a sealed box. those subs enjoy turning themselves inside out in sealed enclosures.

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Ack you're right meph.. i just checked out Cerwin's website. My bad yall. Oh well, but definitely go with a whole lot of subs.
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believe me,if you want to go the cheaper route-
you could use a lower end JL like w0 or whatever
you could put about 300 watts per-
I bet you could hit 155 with enough of em in a sealed box-say like your lower # of 12
with 2 D2's
would be LOUD

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the new kicker compVR's wouldn't be bad either for a relatively inexpensive sub (120 or 130 each?) throw a couple hundred watts to each and that'd get pretty loud too.

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Wy do that when you could get like 20 of the regular Kicker Comps......at like $75 each LOL
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I duno 3 JL 12W6 with one xtant 1000d makes me sick ! How much bassssssss? U Want?
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lol.. a lot more than that... lol
im doin high 140s now w/ 3 12s and 600watts....... and im used to it..
so common ppl. motivate me not to get rims and lower my baby.. convince me to dump my nonexistant money into a system =)

tell me what you want to see... thats why this topic is here!! =)

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