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Looks the smae to me except for quads. I dont know why unlimited is in green but farther down in the explanation of the classes it says 2 amps max
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quote:Originally posted by dblover3: Looks the smae to me except for quads. I dont know why unlimited is in green but farther down in the explanation of the classes it says 2 amps max
I was looking at the same thing???
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it doesn't make street any more expensive...its still the same rule as far as conductors is concearned but now you are allowed to run strappable amps...unfortunately that means 2 t3000ds in street A since they are strappable 3000watt amps
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lol yeah lots less expensive, what's next jbl/crown huge mofo's strappable... lol
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yep nice and cheap for your every day street beaters
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how much power can you run off one battery.. seriously. Personally I think its a great Idea because now we will not have to worry about what amps are cheating the rules.
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if u gonna do unlimited amps u need to do unlimited conductors otherwise there is no point.
how do the rules as they stand right now benefint ANY of the street competitors? tell me
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I have a quick question. why have conductor limits at all in street? make street A one battery... street B two batterys.. and street C three Batteries.... bring whatever your batts will support. Because now when I think about it you will be having people with amps that are internally strapped- strapped so you have the same problem from last year. Just my thought though
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ummm that is basically what everyone else been saying.............
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quote:Originally posted by team WEAK - Justin: I have a quick question. why have conductor limits at all in street? make street A one battery... street B two batterys.. and street C three Batteries.... bring whatever your batts will support. Because now when I think about it you will be having people with amps that are internally strapped- strapped so you have the same problem from last year. Just my thought though
same here if your going to do this screw all the lil people and lets make it 2 batts. street b 3 in c 1 in a and as many amps and sub and hell concrect you can fit
i think this maybe a problem and will drive away more people than bring them in.....but hey whatever get db drag money right?
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if u say screw all the small guys then sure whatever, why stop now. i already bought a crx for this comming season. just 4 more strapabble amps or two crowns and im good to go. only like a $3,000 - $5,000 investment......
...im sure this is very encouraging for the new commers.
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quote:Originally posted by Tinted: if u say screw all the small guys then sure whatever, why stop now. i already bought a crx for this comming season. just 4 more strapabble amps or two crowns and im good to go. only like a $3,000 - $5,000 investment......
...im sure this is very encouraging for the new commers.
lol I was a newcomer last year now I'm just trying to keep up?
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This is prelimary. The purpose is to stimulate discussion.
The biggest change this year will be with regards to Street Max vehicles. These systems cannot have "walls" in the sense that Super Street vehicles have walls. Street Max enclosures do not need to pass the wall test but the enclosure cannot be connected to the roof or sides of the vehicle (other than cosmetically.) In addition, structural mods to the vehicle behind the B-Pillar cannot be made. This has been the intent of this class all along but implementation was flawed last season due to the ways the rules were written.
The amp quantity issue is pretty irrelevant in Street because of the conductor and battery limits. Currently, some manufacturers are getting around these limitations by making very large, expensive, monster amps.
The same is true with regards to quads. The conductor limit has been effective in limiting the amount of amplification that can be used.
We are re-introducing Mini Street this year. Competitors will receive 50% points value for competing in these divisions. Mini Street will not be offered at Finals but competitors who elect to move to regular classes may do so and get at least some credit for the contests they have already participated in.
I will be in Vegas for the next week.
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I really really think that the amp limit in street should be as it was last year. Try your best not to allow '2 in 1' type amps. all other big amps should pretty much be limited by one battery.
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quote:Originally posted by team WEAK - Justin: I have a quick question. why have conductor limits at all in street? make street A one battery... street B two batterys.. and street C three Batteries.... bring whatever your batts will support. Because now when I think about it you will be having people with amps that are internally strapped- strapped so you have the same problem from last year. Just my thought though
same here if your going to do this screw all the lil people and lets make it 2 batts. street b 3 in c 1 in a and as many amps and sub and hell concrect you can fit
i think this maybe a problem and will drive away more people than bring them in.....but hey whatever get db drag money right?
quote:Originally posted by Tinted: I really really think that the amp limit in street should be as it was last year. Try your best not to allow '2 in 1' type amps. all other big amps should pretty much be limited by one battery.
I don't have a strong preference either way with regards to amp quantity but we have a real problem with amps that are in reality more than one amplifier. This is a real problem. As an international organization, it is virtually impossible to keep up with all of the various amps that are on the market in each country. I personally don't like unenforceable rules ... that is one of the benefits of eliminating the amp quantity restriction.
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quote:Originally posted by Tinted: I really really think that the amp limit in street should be as it was last year. Try your best not to allow '2 in 1' type amps. all other big amps should pretty much be limited by one battery.
I don't have a strong preference either way with regards to amp quantity but we have a real problem with amps that are in reality more than one amplifier. This is a real problem. As an international organization, it is virtually impossible to keep up with all of the various amps that are on the market in each country. I personally don't like unenforceable rules ... that is one of the benefits of eliminating the amp quantity restriction.
so drop the conductor rule and have battery limits.. 1 in A.. 2 in B.. 3 in C..
As you know there is only so much power one can get off of one battery
quote:Originally posted by Tinted: if u gonna do unlimited amps u need to do unlimited conductors otherwise there is no point.
how do the rules as they stand right now benefint ANY of the street competitors? tell me
The reason that amp quantity limitations were introduced was to keep the cost of Street systems reasonable. Unfortunately, several manufacturers introduced very large amps (that produced large amounts of power). These amps are quite expensive. We also introduced conductor limits. This effectively limited the number of channels that one of these large amps could have.
Manufacturers have also been circumventing the amp quantity limit by putting multiple amps in a single heatsink. Fortunately, the conductor limit once again kept things under control.
To answer your question, removing the amp quantity limitation would allow competitors to use multiple "cheap" amps to get the same power as the single "monster" amp.
I am interested to hear your perspective on how this is bad for Street competitors as compared to how the rules were in 2004.
Thanks in advance.
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