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unified finals will save manufactuers money but what happens when the sanctioned bodies SPLIT the funds??? If it's a $1000 per booth/etc ,say 4 sanctioned bodies, how would all the organizations maintain the same amount of awards when they have to split fees? 75% cut would not sit well I tell ya that?
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Back in 02 my girlfriend said I had to make a choice between her and DB Drag....I told that b-tch I've made harder decisions at the Coke machine. Posts: 4879 | From: Suitland,MD USA | Registered: Sep 2001
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quote:Originally posted by THE-SCRAPER: unified finals will save manufactuers money but what happens when the sanctioned bodies SPLIT the funds??? If it's a $1000 per booth/etc ,say 4 sanctioned bodies, how would all the organizations maintain the same amount of awards when they have to split fees? 75% cut would not sit well I tell ya that?
say the cost of a booth now is $1000 per show. They also have to pay for shipping over everything in the booth and people to set up the booths. Now if you have 4 finals in one show you could charge $4000 for a booth. Manufactuers would still save money cause they only have to pay shipping to one show, and they only have to pay people to setup and teardown once. also sanctioning bodies could split the cost of the building. for ex say the building for finals now cost $40000 for each org. (4 orgs + 160,000) a building that could host multi org finals would only cost $120,000. The money saved here could help lower the cost of booths. Many people would begin compeating in multi org's = increase in membership sales = more money for the orgs. competitors would only have to travel to one show = less money spent, competitors would miss less work= more money earned and that woudl be really cool to see all of the cars together at the same place and same time
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also, the cost for two sanctioning bodies to have a unified finals should be less than having two separate finals. i would think that it would work out to less of a loss for each promoter in the long run.
-------------------- Team Livewire Posts: 2199 | From: columbus, ohio | Registered: Mar 2001
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I think Wayne and I can bring this thing together under one roof and have a TRUE UNIFIED FINALS that would benefit the entire industry. Wth some industry support and early commitments from the manufacturers I see no reason it cannot be worked out. I intend to talk to Wayne as soon as the holiday is over and the dust has settled from this years finals. Perhaps some of the other organizations will follow suit and choose to join the event in Kansas City as well. The invitation is still open (including IASCA)and we are willing to take steps to see this through. Pehaps the powers in those organizations will see the wisdom and make the choice to benefit the entire industry. USACI is willing to discuss this with ALL organizations for the benefit of ALL competitors and ALL the industry.
One finals, one city, one date, one industry, and one incredible event to unify the industry and the competitors. Imagine that!
-------------------- Ralph Randall USAC, Inc. Posts: 173 | From: Lowell, Arkansas USA | Registered: Jul 2000
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quote:Originally posted by TeamSubGoPoof: Gene i'm sorry for that outburst, just makes me mad when someone directly attacks me for my opinion.
I am 1000% for a unified finals, just not in KC =)
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i know that iasca/meca had a 300+ car turnout. i know that a usac/dbdrag finals has potential to have a larger turn out UNLESS we put stiffer requirements in place for both orgs. i am not sure of how usac bases their finals contestants lists, but perhaps dbdrag can invite only the top 8 in each class vs the top 12+ atleast then, if you make it to finals, you know your getting a trophy no matter what. that will make competitors work alot harder to get an invite. and it will cut down on our excess spaces to make some more room for usac.
i am very serious about this idea of a unified finals. the location is not a problem for me. i would rather leave the location up to wayne and ralph to figure out. but if we let this topic slip away, it will be forgotten. then we will be here talking about how we wished we could have made this happen next year.
USACI/dB Drag Racing had over 300 cars his year at Kansas City. USACI had near 300 alone. If the dB Drag finals had been there the number would have been 450+. Now add MECA and IASCA and your talking 600 cars! That would be an event ro remember. The way Bartle Hall is set up logistics is not an issue, space is not an issue, and if the industry got behind it then finances would not be either.
-------------------- Ralph Randall USAC, Inc. Posts: 173 | From: Lowell, Arkansas USA | Registered: Jul 2000
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quote:Originally posted by TeamSubGoPoof: personally, i will not go to kansas city mo.....i qualified for finals in all 4 orgs (drag, usaci, meca, and iasca) only ended up competing in drag cause car was incomplete for meca and iasca.
I will not go to kansas city because of the crime rate, a guy got his truck rig and show car stolen when he went into a hotel....thats VERY sad.
If we could have say a joint finals somewhere else i'm all for it, but if its in the crime capitol of the world i think im gonna have to find another hobby.
2004 USACI Finals - no reports of any cars stolen, and systems stolen, or any crime against any competitor at the event! The new security measures were not cheap but were worth every penny. We have defeated 99% of the crime issues and that stumbling block is no longer a valid problem. We intend to do the same in future years and keep the crime to 0% against our members!
-------------------- Ralph Randall USAC, Inc. Posts: 173 | From: Lowell, Arkansas USA | Registered: Jul 2000
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quote:Originally posted by TeamSubGoPoof: personally, i will not go to kansas city mo.....i qualified for finals in all 4 orgs (drag, usaci, meca, and iasca) only ended up competing in drag cause car was incomplete for meca and iasca.
I will not go to kansas city because of the crime rate, a guy got his truck rig and show car stolen when he went into a hotel....thats VERY sad.
If we could have say a joint finals somewhere else i'm all for it, but if its in the crime capitol of the world i think im gonna have to find another hobby.
2004 USACI Finals - no reports of any cars stolen, and systems stolen, or any crime against any competitor at the event! The new security measures were not cheap but were worth every penny. We have defeated 99% of the crime issues and that stumbling block is no longer a valid problem. We intend to do the same in future years and keep the crime to 0% against our members!
Ralph, you know i trust ya man.
If we could get a unified finals, i'll be there 200%, as long as security is beefed up. I'd much rather travel once and do a BIG show thats lotsa fun, instead of having to travel to 4 diffrent finals and getting burnt out. So make it happen!
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