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Hello, just a question before I am complaining. I was at the Euro Finals last week in Jonkoping/Sweden. They had calibrators in use and several dB Drag reps from whole Europe was there. Almost all classes could start there. It was a 2 day event (like world finals) So please tell me, why it is no multi point event with certified scores? Or is it yet? And what is about our german finals? Are the scores certified or not? The rulebook says, that all national finals will be certified events. I don´t know how much certified events there will be next year in Germany or Europe. There are some competitors who planing to come and participate at the world finals in 2002 (including me again). But how will it be possible, when no certified event will be held in Europe? And last year, we got the info, that all international competitors can come without points or certified results. But you all know, the trouble we had, (Team BS and Ü2) to be accepted, even we HAD scores and points. We had a big discussion at Jonkoping about that. Europe has some really good cars, and it will be very sad, when they didn´t get the chance, to show their abilities. Is dB Drag Racing an international Sport? I think yes, but I have the feeling, that the most weight is in ÜSA. This is ok, but then make an explicit rule in the rulebook, that says what is to do, or how european or asian or some other international competitors will be handled. Otherwise it makes no sense, to compete in a sport, that just have interest to the land of its descent. Maybe we can make an own SPL league like "db war" or "OKI´s dB Circus". Then we make our own rules and accept just our scores and set world records what just be accepted in Europe. But this will be a step in the wrong direction. DB Drag Racing from Wayne Harris is a great thing and we all accepted the (most) rules. We just wan´t to be accepted too. When we need certified scores and points, give us the possibility to make this events. Or let us compete without this (I thought it was so in the past?) In all cases, make anything to implement the rest of the world to dB Drag racing, or don´t call dB drag Racing an international Sport.
How is it?
Üüüühh!!! Michael
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I full heartedly agree with Michael. Europe needs just ONE certified event ran by Mr. Harris himself so those cars that want to come to WORLD finals can. It was unfortunate what happened this year in all the shipping problems but I hope next year is a much better year for those coming from outside the US to compete.
quote:Originally posted by BanjoBoy: I full heartedly agree with Michael. Europe needs just ONE certified event ran by Mr. Harris himself so those cars that want to come to WORLD finals can. .
You´re right. If there is no chance to that, there is a place for something new with it´s own rules in Europe.
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Why call it WORLD finals when 99% of competitors are from the USA and the event is held in the USA every year?? Why not call it USA Finals???
Also, WORLD finals event such as soccer, olympics etc take place at a different international location every year, DB Drag USA Finals dont.
I was at the Euro Finals in Sweden this past weekend and I saw the hard work that all the competitors went through to make their cars the best. Also some of these competitors travelled for days, one team all the way from Russia!!!
its a shame they all came down and did all that hard work for a x1 pointer.
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I am also realy intressed to see the answer from Wayne. I have all year tried to change from last years extreme 5-8 class to this years extreme 1-2 and still my results are not on the leaderboard. But if i go to extreme 5-8 i see my result on the leaderboard i did this year in extreme 1-2. I want it be as it is suposed to bee. Why shud i pay for a membership in USA if this little thing cant work? This is something i also want an answer to. Wayne u have to take care of Europe otherwise we maybee fix something on our own.
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I agree with these guys, we run the rules and the events but with no multi point events (certified scores) we are left out of the whole DB Drag scene, records & recognition. I agree world finals seems to be US Finals & only for anyone else from other countys with lots of money & time to organise it for themselves. I really feel for Team BS & Big OKI for the time & money they spent coming to the US only for a shipping company to let them down. The European finals was there only chance to really make a mark on the DB scene this year.
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There was two calibrators at Eurofinals (163,1 and 163,6). All classes were offered, but there were no competitors coming to the biggest classes.
It was a great event by all means and calibration was done 'continuously'.
Organizers tried to contact Wayne with mails - A LOT'S OF MAILS - after the world finals to right before eurofinals. 0 answers to anything. Busy man.
It is just so damn hard out here, we have good competitions and very good competitors, but we just don't get like any help from out there and if we try to help our selves, that's not good either. Something needs to be done or we do it ourselves I guess, wouldn't you ?
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Hi Peter, glad to see you right back. The Ü2 (and the support car) had 24 hours just driving time, one way. (Like some americans to the world finals) All in all now the Ü2 travelled in 2001 over 46 000 km (one time around the world is 42 000km) And if I do this next year again, depends on the situation now. I hope they are solutions soon, for this problem, I explained on top of this topic...
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quote:Originally posted by Dr.Loudness: Maybe you should stay inside of boat instead of vomiting on deck. I have no idea about outside wether when I was on ferry. J/K
Not a chance there would of been any doors open to the deck. It is a STORM, you can't be in the deck without starting to fly Trees were falling to roads and stuff like that when we were driving to harbour. Finland-Sweden boats are big ones, like in the caribean or something... 2500 people partying and all
Anyway, back to the topic which is not so fun as this traveling stuff.
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Yes, gas is up to 3 times more expensive here as in ÜSA.
Yes, you drove faster, because you have a normal car. I drove with my Ü2, and it weights more than it is allowed ! (About 400kilos/800pounds more) Every km above 120km/h (75mp/h) is like kamikaze driving. And I don´t have to explain my seating position. Like an Ape on a grindstone... And the support car had no heating, so there must be hot coffee stops from time to time... And then u know my bad back. Must go to the doctor soon...
Üüüühh!!! Michael
PS.: But it was worth every pain.
PS2.: No back to the main Problem ! Wayne, where are you ? Are u amused by reading this topic ? Or are u on holiday? I thought u said, that Europe was too important for you. When u don´t act soon, Europe maybe WAS important... Please let us know what u think about. Or must I start to begin the planning of the "EDBA" ? (European DB Arena) (c;
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I am not Wayne, but I think that this matter should be taken up with whoever promoted the event. I know that Wayne didn't promote this on his website as the European finals, so before you get mad at him make sure everyone has the fact involved.
P.S. He is on vacation right now, so if he doesn't respond until early December, don't be surprised. He is visiting family for the Holidays.
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Ahh ! Thanks for info Alrile ! No, I´m not mad about Wayne, it´s the whole situation. DbDragracing is now so big, that it is necessary to implement the rest of the world. I hope he will retire from that exciting season, and that he will have a clear head, when he read this topic. Meanwhile I think we can discuss some things here. But please, I hope that everybody do this in an adult(?) manner. (at least I hope, that my words don´t become too sharp...)
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It was the European dbdrag finals, like it or not. Everything was done by the book, 2 judges per car etc etc...
Many thanks to the organisers for a good Event.
Last years Euro finals was made a tripple pointer AFTER the event, so I suppose we just wait this year also.
PS, Just got back from Sweden.
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quote:Originally posted by alrile: I am not Wayne, but I think that this matter should be taken up with whoever promoted the event. I know that Wayne didn't promote this on his website as the European finals, so before you get mad at him make sure everyone has the fact involved.
As far as I know, the event promoter and organizer tried to contact wayne with at least 15 mails for a certain period of time after the world finals to before eurofinals about these issues without getting any answer. They should of trying to call him 15 times too ? Well I guess it is not that easy, we don't speak english as our native language and would have to call around 2-7 AM the local time...
Well anyway, it was a great event, no matter how it is taken over the seas.
I hope Wayne or anyone else is not taking this as a stupid or unnecessary complain or bitching... idea is to make dB Drag better in Europe, and if that can not be done, what to do ? It is so different world out here, it is hard for you US guys to understand the problems we have. We are not that united as your all states over there, and we have much smaller countries than any of your state. We don't have The Wayne to tell what to do and how.
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Thanks Wayne. And next year you have to come to our eurofinals, I have a little feeling that some competitors are coming from US too! At least interested... but we'll see Posts: 575 | From: Finland | Registered: Feb 2001
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Don't forget about the crazy competitors from Brazil,Australia,and Japan!DB Drag racing is a world wide competition!It would be cool to have a true world finals.Too bad it cost alot of $$$ to ship vehicles and people.
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quote:Originally posted by MEGAJAM: Don't forget about the crazy competitors from Brazil,Australia,and Japan!DB Drag racing is a world wide competition!It would be cool to have a true world finals.Too bad it cost alot of $$$ to ship vehicles and people.
not just thes countries, bu all ower the world. Africa, Asia, South america, meadle East...
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