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Wayne Harris
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http://www.termpro.com/dbdrag/rules/2004/rules04.html

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Fixed battery installation limitations in Street and Street Max. 6-7i and 6-8f.

Removed the "Walls Required" limitation on Super Street.

Add metric dimensions throughout.

Cleaned up and expanded the bracing limitations in the Extreme division.

Let's put this puppy to bed.

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You've got a PM Wayne.

If you'd like, I can pick over the whole thing once substantive changes are done with my editor's eye and see if there are any grammar-type or spelling errors. Just let me know. [Smile]

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Thanks. I fixed the typo.

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There are currently speaker manufactures building 13" woofers. Will 1 of these be allowed in Street A? They actually have the same cone area as a 12" Square L7.

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looks good to me Wayne, thank you!

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JL13 is 13.5 inches. thats 6.75^x3.14=143.07
L712 is 144
round 12" woofer is 113.04

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Are the number of conductors/quads out in SS and Extreme? I don't see any information in the Section 2 - Competitor Classification System of this draft?
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B-Pillar – The B-Pillar is the portion of the automobile where the door latches are located.

Should this be changed to:

B-Pillar – The B-Pillar is the portion of the automobile where the FRONTdoor latches are located.

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give it a once over and finalize it,and post final draft and we all can go dbdraging,thanks wayne

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looks great wayne I think the dash should have some flexiblity but overall its great and clear cut.


JL makes a 12W7 use that and you will be within the rules

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Speaker walls are permitted by not required

Maybe this is better [Smile] :

Speaker walls are permitted BUT not required

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quote:
Originally posted by Jani K:
B-Pillar – The B-Pillar is the portion of the automobile where the door latches are located.

Should this be changed to:

B-Pillar – The B-Pillar is the portion of the automobile where the FRONTdoor latches are located.

I am not sure that needs to be changed. The pillar for the rear doors, is called the C-pillar (not the B-pillar).

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You could make your dash out of a flexible material [Big Grin]

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Originally posted by Iboomalot:
looks great wayne I think the dash should have some flexiblity but overall its great and clear cut.


JL makes a 12W7 use that and you will be within the rules



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[Frown]

I liked the battery rules better when I could move the primary one to my trunk. Oh well.

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That's been the rule since day one.

You can however, purchase a car that comes factory with a rear mounted battery.

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[Frown]

I liked the battery rules better when I could move the primary one to my trunk. Oh well.



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I was referring to draft #2 [Smile]
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quote:
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Everyone should quit spamming this topic. [Confused]

pot..kettle...black [Confused] [Wink]

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quote:
dBSteve-
There are currently speaker manufactures building 13" woofers. Will 1 of these be allowed in Street A? They actually have the same cone area as a 12" Square L7.


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dBSteve-
JL13 is 13.5 inches. thats 6.75^x3.14=143.07
L712 is 144
round 12" woofer is 113.04

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Originally posted by Chad_Sidgerstein:

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JL13 is 13.5 inches. thats 6.75^x3.14=143.07
L712 is 144
round 12" woofer is 113.04

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thanks for fixing that to whoever-
after measuring the jl13w7 is 14" diameter and the l7 is 12.5" square
have a nice day [Smile]
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seems to me to be on topic- one round 12" is about 113.1square inches but those two are much larger and I was answering dBSteve.
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quote:
Originally posted by Chad_Sidgerstein:
quote:
dBSteve-
There are currently speaker manufactures building 13" woofers. Will 1 of these be allowed in Street A? They actually have the same cone area as a 12" Square L7.


quote:
dBSteve-
JL13 is 13.5 inches. thats 6.75^x3.14=143.07
L712 is 144
round 12" woofer is 113.04

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Originally posted by Chad_Sidgerstein:

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JL13 is 13.5 inches. thats 6.75^x3.14=143.07
L712 is 144
round 12" woofer is 113.04

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thanks for fixing that to whoever-
after measuring the jl13w7 is 14" diameter and the l7 is 12.5" square
have a nice day
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seems to me to be on topic- one round 12" is about 113.1square inches but those two are much larger and it was originally brought up by dBSteve not me.

just like a 12" Kicker Square L7 is allowed, and its bigger ( 144 sq inches ).

so whats your point?

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quote:
Originally posted by Sid Grice:
I am not sure that needs to be changed. The pillar for the rear doors, is called the C-pillar (not the B-pillar).

I know [Smile] But we are trying to define what b-pilar is, so it must be said that it is the pilar behind front doors.

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quote:
dBSteve-
so whats your point?


Your point. [Smile]
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dBSteve- There are currently speaker manufactures building 13" woofers. Will 1 of these be allowed in Street A? They actually have the same cone area as a 12" Square L7.


the 13w7 is actually a 14" diameter woofer and has more cone area than an l7 (107 against 100) and an l7 is already larger than a round 12" so I hope they don't allow a 13w7 against a round 12 [Smile] [Smile]
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Changer...blanket... [Roll Eyes] [Eek!] [Big Grin] [Razz]

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Everyone should quit spamming this topic. [Confused]

pot..kettle...black [Confused] [Wink]


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Wall test using the window line rule does need addressed.

When there is a Usaci/dB Drag show together, few Usaci competitors will be able to compete in our street classes due to box height.

However, all dB Drag competitors can legally compete in Usac because our rules require shorter boxes.

Less Usaci competitors running dB Drag
More dB Drag competitors running Usaci

I guess we can do this for 2004 and see what happens then hopefully change it for next year.

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quote:
Originally posted by Chad_Sidgerstein:
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dBSteve-
so whats your point?


Your point. [Smile]
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dBSteve- There are currently speaker manufactures building 13" woofers. Will 1 of these be allowed in Street A? They actually have the same cone area as a 12" Square L7.


the 13w7 has more cone area than an l7 and an l7 is already larger than a round 12" so I hope they don't allow a 13w7 against a round 12 [Smile] [Smile]

a 13w7 does not have more cone area than an L7.

I tell you what ... lets make this damn thing simple. If you have JLW13's you must compete in a class with 15's. there, thats easy enough. So much for me looking out for competitors. [Roll Eyes]

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