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Ok, I was getting ready to go my part in building the best SPL car I could with a single e15A and about 1300watts in a 6cube box.
I figure I got a good chance of getting a placement in the amateur class. As the comp takes place on sept 4th and 5th, I gave myself ample time to tune my box and settings, burning more and more tones onto a CD.
Then I saw in a mag, something funny about the placement system. only three for the whole 2 days. Couldn't be.
THere it was stated:
street - 1~2 subs, no amp restrictions super street - 3~4 subs no amp restrictions extreme - 5+ subs no amp restrictions
all classes with walls allowed.
Stumped, I quickly made a call to dB drag and was confirmed of my suspicions.
WHAT A SHAM!!!!! So technically, if I had my sub in a 2.5cube box with about 900 watts, I'd STILL have to go against a treo CSX in a wall, linked to a zapco 4KW or a DD9917 with about 6000w RMS also in a wall.
Isn't this sport about awareness for the industry as well as the sanctioning body? I looked back at the pic featured in the mag and behold, a room full of old farts (about 40~50's) in a conference room talking about some crap in business suits in a fancy dinner party. Oh yeah, FINALLY buying a termpro mic is worth having a gala. big news. woohoo~
They've been using the AC mic all along.
I say shape up else I'll be bringing MECA to town in full force(I believe I've got more media coverage contacts than all of the comittee members in dB drag Korea combined).
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Sorry to hear that. Well don't blame dB Drag, it is the greatest format after all. But it looks like somebody over there is combining classes a bit stupid way.
It works to combine like all Street cars to one class or all Super Street cars with wall to one class and all Extreme cars to one class - if there is not enough competitors to have somekind of competition in each official class. But combining ONLY by how many woofers you have sounds like a terrible idea and I can imagine many competitors would be pissed off like you.
I don't know, perhaps I misunderstood you, but if they are really combining like that, then somebody should talk them some sense! Perhaps it's just some misunderstanding all the way, they haven't think about it or have given or got wrong information or something...
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Well, if dB drag gave them sanctioning licence and they don't know how to classify each competitor, those old farts aren't up to par, and is giving dB drag a bad name. How can they not know a wall and no wall is not the same thing? (ALL classes can have walls, which is what everyone is doing).
It is downright disappointing and wrong. There are quite a few that have very loud daily setup here, but with comps like dB drag Korea, there's quite a lot of people turning towards the possibility of MECA's sanctioning body here. The Iraggi formula seems a million times better than what dB drag Korea can hope to offer.
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Thats why you are here - make yourself heard - go back and talk to the officials involved there and bring your point accross - they will explain their reasons for combining classes, you can also vent your frustrations with them and possibly you can all solve the problem and make dbdrags grow. There is no need for you try put them down why not get involved as an official and help them. Good luck. Mike
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quote:Originally posted by bikemike: Thats why you are here - make yourself heard - go back and talk to the officials involved there and bring your point accross - they will explain their reasons for combining classes, you can also vent your frustrations with them and possibly you can all solve the problem and make dbdrags grow. There is no need for you try put them down why not get involved as an official and help them. Good luck. Mike
You've got a point there, that's why I'm going to their office in about a couple of hours not to vent, but to express my disappointment and what they have to show for lower class competitors.
Now, about letting db drag grow here and becoming an official won't happen. Why? That's the way it is over here. Seniority seems to be above the law. THat's the reason why all the officials are old, so people won't disrespect them. At the same time, young people feel hard to apporach them.
They still believe in caps being THE solution for all power drains in a system. Betcha it's gonna be hard to convince them within a day's meet.
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Hey I just got in mind that there's this guy, whos name I don't remember now... he is from "around there" (I am sorry, you guys over there might not like if we see japanese, chinese, koreans the same... ) and should know a bit more how things should be done. He was one of the international judges at last year World Finals in Nashville.
Someone should remember and know more about this guy, perhaps he could help there.
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What I would suggest is not blaming the people holding the event. Work with them, they may not have a clue what they are doing. Explain what the competition is about and how it is supposed to work. Also explain to them that using their rules is going to discourage people from competing and why. I would write notes before I went to talk to them and refer to them. The fact that they even scheduled an event tells me that they want to make it work. Nobody wants to hold an event that doesn't have as many competitors as possible.
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ok, so I did meet them in person to talk a week back. I still didn't et a good explanation on things.
It seems they are not willing to check on competitor's equipemtns properly. Says that people mod their amps, and there's no way to check them, so they went with the three category rules.
people in the US has got as much knowledge to mod their amps for comps too, so what's the biggie? THey had no answer. They also have no interest in having smaller comps for a no wall comp (thought at LEAST this might be feasible).
Bottomline: I tried to talk to them. I told them how I felt about not being able to compete. I told them what they might consider. They shook their heads while I was talking.
See, if it was a western culture, things would be awesome, I won't get this kind of disrespect. It's this seniority thing that kills me. "Young people just don't have a clue to anything. We know a whole lot more, we lived much longer, so everything we say is the law". Screw you, i'm not a teenager, i'm hitting my thirties soon. I'm considered old with car audio, and you're the extinct dinosaurs that hamper growth of this industry over here.
SOrry, just had to vent the last few words out. Lemme go sulk with my now useless box...
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I sorry you did not get all the info you need but please keep on trying, I can only encourage you from this end. I understand the predicament they are in because I too have a problem with guys doing mods on their amps but that is no excuse, what they need is more manpower & it seems you are the man to head up that type of department for them. Form a team for them that will be at all events that wil scrutinise all equipment before the competitors enter, that way it will stop the cheaters coming, word will get out very quickly that in no way can they compete with illiciat equipment. Good luck (sorry I only answer so late).
Mike
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I would also like to add that yes it is a rule that you can't modify amps. Many ,many competitors here do also. So many infact that I don't even think its a rule anymore. I have never seen a judge check to see if it was modified. How would he know every amp manufactured? Modified amps are very common here. Many are done at the factory and some by the competitors themselves.
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