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I have read rules, and stil have some questions.
I know you can't go over the limit for the specific class. However, is that for the average or each sample.
Can I be averaging 139.1 for 20 seconds into the run, and then to increase my score turn my system up to 141 to increase my average above 139.1 (as long as my average does not go above 139.9)?
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No, you aren't suppose to go over the 139.9 at all during eliminations per sample. That would be an Over shot.
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but its an average, and your average cannot exceed 139.9 db, the way i understand it is as long as ur average is 139.9 or less, it doesnt matter what ur spl at a certain moment in that 30 seconds is
like if u played 120 db for 15 seconds, then played 160 db for the last 15 seconds, ur average would be 140, so if u were a lil off on the start or whatnot, ur average would be under 140, u should not bust out...or should u?
but the moment ur average exceeeds 139.9, u lose, doesnt matter if u went over 139.9, then backed down and ur average dropped below 140, u still lose that way
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Yes it is an average but at no time can your displayed average excede your bracket max. That is known as breaking out. I usually play full blast which I am sure is well over 150 but when the displayed score moves into the 140 -149.9 bracket I begin making adjustments to the volume aiming to get it as close to a 149.9 as possible.
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Your score is constantly being averaged throughout the run. So your example may be OK.
The key is to watch the display, and adjust accordingly. If the "displayed" score goes over (during eliminations) your classes max score, the computer will automatically detect it, and red flag your score.
-------------------- David "Quadzilla" McLean Posts: 3360 | From: Jacksonville, FL USA | Registered: Sep 1999
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this is exactly what I asked earlier in the year and people wanted to play word games.
I stated what Will does... is exactly what would happen. Nothing against Will, but he plays with "headroom" (sandbaggin) so to speak and beats a kid that is giving his system hell and has NO chance to win (unless Will screws up)
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quote:I have read rules, and stil have some questions.
I know you can't go over the limit for the specific class. However, is that for the average or each sample.
Can I be averaging 139.1 for 20 seconds into the run, and then to increase my score turn my system up to 141 to increase my average above 139.1 (as long as my average does not go above 139.9)?
I sounds confusing - but once you see it work it makes more sense.
Yes you can turn you system as loud as you want toooooo - but the AVERAGE score cannot exceed the class
example
1st second your stereo does - ZERO - average score on display board zero 2nd second your stereo does - ZERO -average score on display board - zero 3rd second your stereo does - 100 db - average score on display board 33db 4th second your stereo does- 100 db - average score on display board 50db 5th second
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quote:what if my display doesn't work? I about sent an $800 display sailing about 500' at a show one day because it won't work.
I hate equipment failures too. Being in the field is ruff on equipment. Once I starting buying all my leaderboards from Wayne I have had good luck with them.
Bass Race does require a visual reference for scoring. I have seen others use Monitors, large lcd screens, and projector screens to keep competitors updated.
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Well going to OKMariner last comment. Will can be a sanbagger but is a game so if you can be in the 140.0-149.9 class but do only 151.0 why risk it when there is some other guys doing 152 or 154, so why risk it when you can win another class even if is lower. But again is not easy in any class is all about knowing your system and Will really knows his system.
Again is not about been sanbagger is about doing it right and smart.
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yes, will, or anyone else, can sandbag and stay in a lower class.
there is a HUGE risk in doing that. as you can more easily break out of your bracket during eliminations if you arent carefull.
this is what happened to me this past weekend at slippery rock.
i bagged, and stayed in the 120-129.9 class.
me and the winner, were battling the whole time. in the last 10 seconds, were were battling around 129.5.
with TWO seconds left, he turned it down, i turned it up. with ONE second left, he dropped to a 129.1 and i jumped to a 130.0 and got dq'd. in the aboslute final second.
using this as an example, it doesnt matter if my system can play louder, it doesnt matter if will's is the loudest around. he is going to be against people in his same volume bracket. and if he or anyone else bags, they run the increased risk of breaking out.
bass race is about FUN, CONTROL, and REACTION TIME.
if you've done it, then you completely understand.
it doesnt matter what your system can do. its about what you can do with your system.
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Just on my defense there are no "kids in my class" I can hit over 150 but can in no way average above a 153 so how can it be competitive to run full blast against someone who can average a 154. And a little FYI I have competed against that same 154 person in the 149.9 bracket and in the final round at daytona my average ended with a 149.8 and he broke out.
Bass race is all about control and knowing your system so many people lose their cool and break out. It is also what it is described as which is Bracket competition. they have it at most drag races (bracket racing) people make a run down the track and then race against one another trying to get as close to their origional score without trying to go over.
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quote:Originally posted by Will Alfonso: Just on my defense there are no "kids in my class" I can hit over 150 but can in no way average above a 153 so how can it be competitive to run full blast against someone who can average a 154. And a little FYI I have competed against that same 154 person in the 149.9 bracket and in the final round at daytona my average ended with a 149.8 and he broke out.
Bass race is all about control and knowing your system so many people lose their cool and break out. It is also what it is described as which is Bracket competition. they have it at most drag races (bracket racing) people make a run down the track and then race against one another trying to get as close to their origional score without trying to go over.
Also just want to add My system can burp a 143 one amp 3 12s, the way it set up daily. To date my best bassrace run has been a 138.2 but have had some very bad runs also. 128 131s 134s. It really kind of hard. Starts are my problem. Once i get them down I think I can allmost max out the 139 braket. Should be fun trying. Also just want to add I tried bass racing last year with an extreme van able to post 70s+ scored a stunning 142. It really alot harder then it seems.
quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: what if my display doesn't work? I about sent an $800 display sailing about 500' at a show one day because it won't work.
do you actually think that sam would let someone run in a bassrace without their display not working?????
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quote:Originally posted by Will Alfonso: Just on my defense there are no "kids in my class" I can hit over 150 but can in no way average above a 153 so how can it be competitive to run full blast against someone who can average a 154. And a little FYI I have competed against that same 154 person in the 149.9 bracket and in the final round at daytona my average ended with a 149.8 and he broke out.
Bass race is all about control and knowing your system so many people lose their cool and break out. It is also what it is described as which is Bracket competition. they have it at most drag races (bracket racing) people make a run down the track and then race against one another trying to get as close to their origional score without trying to go over.
Also just want to add My system can burp a 143 one amp 3 12s, the way it set up daily. To date my best bassrace run has been a 138.2 but have had some very bad runs also. 128 131s 134s. It really kind of hard. Starts are my problem. Once i get them down I think I can allmost max out the 139 braket. Should be fun trying. Also just want to add I tried bass racing last year with an extreme van able to post 70s+ scored a stunning 142. It really alot harder then it seems.
Preach it bro...
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