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Ok...so from what I understand.... Bass Race is supposed to be for bad ass street type systems?? What is to keep someone like Scottie Johnson or the Rileys from just playing their system that they do Drag with? Your back to the same thing except you just make them find the song that most closely resembles their burp tone.
So how about before you can even run, you must play pink noise at 125-130 db and your system must not have more than lets say 10db variance from 30hz to 80hz. If your system can not play that flat, you cant run. (You can not adjust anything once you play the pink noise.)Once your system proves to play within 10db from 30 to 80 hz, you can then make your run with music. This would most defenitely rule any competitor from running their Drag car in Bass Race. Oh ya, I would get rid of the classes the way they are now. Just go for whoever can hit the highest number in their class. I havent put much thought into what classes would be.
Any thoughts??/
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quote:Originally posted by KickinAudio: class wise, I think the classes now are as fair as it can get.
But its not about who has a louder street system, its about who can come closeset to a certain number. Its like the bracket racer that uses his stock geo metro in the 1/8th mile to beat a 700 horsepower drag car. Kinda like the port wars car that brags about how loud his 170 db pair of 10's are.
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If everyone just "unleashed" their system and played it full volume, bass race would not be successful, there would be no ties, it just wouldn't be exciting.
Now the 150+ class is a different story, it’s much harder to reach the top of the bracket because of the sound level...so those racers’s just turn it up and let it go.
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i agree again with casey. i can understand your point dom, however the 150+ class takes care of those who want to go balls to the wall. the classes under that are better for the noobs that have a fighting chance against the pros.
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Ok....but how hard to you think it would be for a system to play between 30 and 80 hz within 10db or less? The numbers would be way lower and the systems would more resemble something that is really on the street playing music...ones that sound good anyway..
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i understand what your thinking dom, i've often thought dam if bob perillo or scottie give this a try they would defintaly be the kings of 150+, so maybe your idea should be implemted for the 150 class, cause i dont think bob or scottie or whoever else would want to run in the 139 or 149 class even,
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Think about the sealed cars that dont play much below 40hz but have a good 55hz output.
Or the boys that tune mid 20s and dont have hardly any output above 55hz.
Leave it as it is, its nice and simple.
An SPL car playing music is something alot of people want to see, especially when they really push it, unload below tuning and start smoking gear.
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shane you going to do bass race just for fun?? or do you plan on going all the way to fianls with it?
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quote:Originally posted by Mr Bump: Way too complicated.
Think about the sealed cars that dont play much below 40hz but have a good 55hz output.
Or the boys that tune mid 20s and dont have hardly any output above 55hz.
Leave it as it is, its nice and simple.
An SPL car playing music is something alot of people want to see, especially when they really push it, unload below tuning and start smoking gear.
good point .......everyone loves smoke
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its a run what ya brung format. the size of the system isnt what matters.
the whole point behind bass race is control.
the classes are setup perfect with the way you qaulify and the way you get classed.
i dont understand the purpose of 10db between 20 and 80.
start putting a bunch of restrictions, and you are right back where dbdrag is wit h500 pages of rules.
the whole reason behind bassrace is that it doesnt matter what you run.
you can run a 8" pyramid and beat the guy next to you with a wall of 15's.
there are no install rules.
its brings competition back to its roots. in the streets, at the car wash, etc.. street beaters.
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quote:Originally posted by trafficjamz: Ok...so from what I understand.... Bass Race is supposed to be for bad ass street type systems?? Bass Race is to show over all understanding of your system. I'm sure that all the cars in the 120 plus class will do 130's. What is to keep someone like Scottie Johnson or the Rileys from just playing their system that they do Drag with? The respect they have for competitors and db drag.
So how about before you can even run, you must play pink noise at 125-130 db and your system must not have more than lets say 10db variance from 30hz to 80hz. If your system can not play that flat, you cant run. (You can not adjust anything once you play the pink noise.)Once your system proves to play within 10db from 30 to 80 hz, you can then make your run with music. This would most defenitely rule any competitor from running their Drag car in Bass Race. Oh ya, I would get rid of the classes the way they are now. Just go for whoever can hit the highest number in their class. I havent put much thought into what classes would be.
I feel that the classes are perfect. Dominick, do you want a class for ported boxes and one for sealed? Everybody wants to change classes to meet thier needs. I don't do USAC shows, I don't fit into the format. I don't do MECA cause I got tired of all the rule changes each year. Like some 30 plus spl classes give me a break, I get sick of all the criing that comes from meca competitors. There is more crap and drama that comes from the "MECA FAMILY" then anyother organization. Here, you want to compete? Then go compete. There wasn't anything wrong with bass race last year leave it alone.
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From a spectator point of view---pink noise would be boring as hell. Specators are the ones you need to first draw, and then turn into competitors.
130db of pink noise---watch the equipment blow. Watching what blew would be the only excitement in a class of who has the loudest pink noise.
quote:Originally posted by trafficjamz: Ok....but how hard to you think it would be for a system to play between 30 and 80 hz within 10db or less? The numbers would be way lower and the systems would more resemble something that is really on the street playing music...ones that sound good anyway..
for daily I cut off at 40hz , I like low bass. I am going to give bass race a try this year. So far your Idea isn't sound. Besides have you done bass race to feel it is unfair?
quote:Originally posted by PornStar: i dont see the point.
who cares if people use thier drag cars?
its a run what ya brung format. the size of the system isnt what matters.
the whole point behind bass race is control.
the classes are setup perfect with the way you qaulify and the way you get classed.
i dont understand the purpose of 10db between 20 and 80.
start putting a bunch of restrictions, and you are right back where dbdrag is wit h500 pages of rules.
the whole reason behind bassrace is that it doesnt matter what you run.
you can run a 8" pyramid and beat the guy next to you with a wall of 15's.
there are no install rules.
its brings competition back to its roots. in the streets, at the car wash, etc.. street beaters.
I have seen many times where a car boomin at a show gets more attention than a car that does 150+ for 3 sec
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The Pink Noise is just for system verification. To see if your system is really musical. Not for the main event.
Bass Race has nothing to do with low bass, or even being able to play music. Nobody playing 30hz like a mofo is going to do a good number in comparison to someone playing 50-60hz.
Windows down would be cool. More impact and way more fun to hear and watch.
Is it not way more cool to see a REAL street system that plays low? I think so. In Bass Race, playing low is the furthest thing you need.
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keep it simple, bass race does that! If you want more complex rules and stipulations street class is for you.
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i'm doing bass race this year with 2 apx 18's in a wall in my blazer, i'll be tuned low 30's, whether i put up a good number or not i don't care, but i do know the blazer will be rockin and flexin and i'll have lots of fun, and i'm gonna put on my own bass race show just for fun and allow windows down!
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I'm not sure that big dawgs like the ones mention would take a chance on Bass Race and blow $hit out and then compete in Db Drag. They could of course, but they might take a huge chance with their equipment. Maybe or maybe not.
Let's make it fair then, no Van's allowed in Bass Race
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