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Ok, there haven't been any new topics here for awhile, so I just thought I'd open something new up....

Alma, there has been a little bit of discussion here from Wayne and others about getting corporate America involved in our sport. Being a business major and very in tune with the corporate world, I can totally understand this. You have been very successful in getting aligned with corporate sponsors. What do we (dbDrag Racing) need to do to catch the attention of the big $$$? I am referring to something like a Budweiser tour sponsorship or something like that.

Anyone else, your 2 cents?????????

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This would be a good idea, what two food groups and drinks do we most commonly find in an install bay. Pizza and Beer. Seriously though it would be nice to see a famous drink company competing and handing out free softdrinks at shows especialy the blistering hot days.

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This is something we have talked about often. Question is are we big enough to get outside sponsorship. I thing we are. How do we do it? Wayne has a good start with his television things going on. Db drag is exciting and on the same level as some other extreme sports - ie - wrestling, bull riding, etc. No blood or gore, but there is excitement. I think any suggestions would be greatly appreciated by Wayne and I know they would by Team Gates.

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One of the problems I have is the type of sponsors for Team Gates. I turned down a rather large sponsorship at CES because I felt it would be wrong for us to advertise a product that would not be healthy for the demographic we (team gates) reaches - (12years and up) So we have basically eliminated tobacco and alcohol. I have no problems with others using these companies as sponsors, but it does not fit into the image we have. This is really a tough one - because the money is there.

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If any of you have any ideas or suggestions, please post. This is an interesting subject and is important to the survival of our sport. My team members and I have discussed the possiblity of us getting outside industry sponsors and the potential of opening up a new area for other competitors to do the same. Hey, you never know if you dont try.

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What we DON'T need is the car audio companies sponsoring more. That doesn't really help anybody because that is money better spent internally and R&D etc. The money needs to come from OUTSIDE the industry.

I like dbDon's idea of pizza. I can't count how many pizzas we've wolfed down during a late night session.

I like your idea Alma about staying away from alcohol and tobacco. It isn't because I'm a teetotaller (I'm not ), but I agree with the age thing.

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I agree with what mastap said in the last post. Think of all the money that is spend on sponsering people. If that money could be put to R&D or even more CS type people the over all experience for all involved woud go up.

I have also thought about this and even talk about it with a few people. But was not sure how to procede from there.

Something that alma said about the sport being interesting like other extreme sports but with no blood and what not. This bring up another post here in the forum. It was on the show in Jeff City. Many post made by both compedators and a few spectators. Well the general concenus with the compedators is it was a VERY VERY well ran show. But a spectator said he was disappointed cause it was boring. I can see this being the case for some. Kinda like other sports...people see some as just hitting a ball and running around bases or hitting a ball..going after it and hitting it again trying to get it into a hole. Other people see sports VERY VERY different.

I think its important to some how make it more interesting to watch on a tv type enviroment or some how have a plan to do this when corp sponsership is sought. Cause the person you are pitching to...who might be the only change with that company might be one of those that see the sport like other see sports at I said above.

I think it is a VERY good idea to get this type of sponsherip.

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I remember that post about a boring show. I am a fanatic and I think that a lot of shows are boring. The number one reason I go to shows is to see what other people have.

Plain and simple, we have to show off our vehicles. When we are in the lanes, the competitors need to get on the mike and brag about their systems while the jigs are being set. Stuff like that. That would really really help in my opinion.

When people talk about shows being well run, they are talking from a competitor point of view. What we need is shows being well run from a spectator point of view.

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I suspose they are boring to the spectator - but when Wayne is there talking to the competitors and bringing information to the crowd - it changes. So does USAC when "the mouth" - Mr. Cox - takes over the mic. It has to be a show that people can hear as well as see. It's called entertainment! And I think we, as competitors, can help with this. Many of the competitors just go there to compete (and I am not condemning anyone or critizing - just making a statement) We all need to interact with the spectators more. I know it sounds silly - but it works. You have to sell yourself to that audience.

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I agree. Interaction is what makes it fun to watch. I try and be open. But I am not go and take people by the hand and say look a my system...Ya know?

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Very good points.. I too see where Team Gates stands on the tobacco and alcohol thing. VERY GOOD. I would think the "King of Beers" and the "King of SPL"(Wayne Harris) should join together, but I see the issue of age.I guess it boils down to responsibility. We must be responsible, and professional ( with some fun of course) at the shows. Never know who may be watching.

And like Rob said.. I too try to be open, heck I have no "real" secrets to hide( maybe one or two upcoming tricks.. but I'll answer what I can, and for as long of a time that is needed.

any other ideas on outside sponsorships?

Gabriel

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Alma (Goddess of audio), have you considered looking towards FORD, The company whos equipment you used to raise the height of the bronco, the tire manufacturer of the brand of tires on the bronco, the company where you purchased the lexan sheeting for windows, the local radio station in your area, for sponsorship?
I see the need for outside sponsorhip, and find many sources that could/would help promote a well known/liked vehicle in most any type of sports. If "trick" inline skaters can get sponsorship from helmet manufacturers, and drag racers (pro & amature) can get sponsorship from tire, engine components, suspension manufacturers, I see no reason why you (of all people) would not be able to get sponsorhip from manufactures (other that tobacco and alcohol) for your vehicle. I hope that my rambling has not gone on for too long, but I just couldn't resist the opportunity to give my input to THE GODDESS OF AUDIO. Good Luck, and God Bless.

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Entertainment is definetly the key. Along with showing off our vehicles.

Wrestling is cool, but if all they did is come out in tights and roll around in the ring I don't think I would still be watching.

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personally, i think pro wrestling is gay. ok, that out of the way, Alma, of coarse, has an upper hand in this area. she has been posted and featured in magazines since before most of the new enthusiasts were knee high...ok exageration, but you know what i mean. I believe that a lap top PC with internet capability and a stack of the old magazines could get her some sponsorship from near about any moderate sized company. companies such as COCACOLA, PEPSI, RC COLA,Pizza Hut,CiCi's,these companies are always looking for new avenues to reach more people on a more regular basis. what better than to invest a small amount, in comparison to company size, in a competition vehicle that is know the world over. all to just remind you that they have twenty billion coke cans in circulation..LOL...HELL..TOYOTA...and i know you have NOTHING Toyota on your car...but they are dying to make their presence known ANYWHERE....they sponsor TOP FUEL for god's sake. Best Regards, Steve

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ok, heres my 2 cents worth. First off, I want to tell you Alma that it is very nice to finally talk to you. I haven't had the nerve to say anything up till now, as you are the Audio Goddess. My husband came home with a picture he had taken with you and his son at the 96 World Finals and it totally tripped me out. After that I have been more into the car audio scene. You have inspired many women into this sport and gave us the realization, we can do it to. I want to be like you when I grow up

As for wrestling, it used to be a good thing. We always watched it but then it started to seem kinda pornish and it finally came down that the kids couldn't watch that. They were getting their eyes full of stuff they didn't need to..lol

I think that is why we are so much into dB Drag. We can take our kids and you don't see anyone drunk or doing drugs. Its a fun time for all.

I think that if anyone could get outside sponsorship it would be you Alma. I believe that Pepsi owns pizzahut, taco bell, and KFC if Im not mistaken. I know if we could somehow work on the drink product it would trickle down to all the others. I will do some research on it and see what I can find out. Good luck to you Alma, and to the rest in the upcoming year.

Best wishes,

Becky
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Becky, Pepsi spun off their restaurant units into a separate holding company last year and thus are not related anymore. Good idea, though, and keep them coming.

I think a really big point that we see coming up over and over is that what we are asking for is peanuts compared to what typical companies spend on normal ad campaigns. Not only that but we give them some strong regional presence (for local competitors) and national coverage as well. Furthermore, the demographics are well known. All companies love well-targeted ads.

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Hello Becky,

I am glad you have decided to join our world. First of all, I am not a queen, goddess, or anything else. I am Alma Gates, and just like everyone else - only older. This thing that happened to us was not planned - it just happened. I thing the industry was ready for something in 1996 and Patrick and I happened to be in the right place at the right time.

I have often thought that if we could unite into some type of group - we would have more selling power to get a big time sponsor. I think that is what Wayne is doing now - The young man is on a roll. I know that many of the larger companies do not sponsor small things - they go with the organizations that get world-wide exposure. And truthfully, in the car audio world - team gates is well known. but outside that small world - no one knows or cares. My neighbors dont even know about Team Gates.

So, I really dont know what the solution is, but I do know that the potential is out there, we just have keep working on it.

Oh yes, tell your husband and son hello.

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Research was done on what generation X watched and WWW was number 1. Its not the wrestling that keeps them watching, its the comedy involved. You ever see someone bounced on, kicked, thrown, strangled, etc without a single drop of blood being shown? The kids know its very good acting. My late husband was AAU wrestling champion many years ago and he always said some of the best acting was on www. The point is that they have something going for them - excitement & thrills and they are selling products - which means money!

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Uh-oh... Pegasus, if Alma's the Goddess of Audio...
<~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I guess I'll have to take this off, hehe. *bows to Alma* I still love you , Ma.


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Even if the goddess of audio (Alma) is too modest to admit it, I still believe in her. She will alway be the goddess of audio, at least here in Louisiana (and in my heart).

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quote:
Originally posted by Pegasus1:
Even if the goddess of audio (Alma) is too modest to admit it, I still believe in her. She will alway be the goddess of audio, at least here in Louisiana (and in my heart).


What can I say? Thank you. I admire and love you all. You will never have any idea what your encouragement and support has done for me and my team. You are really what keeps us going; always trying to get more db out of that bronco. Its funny, but when friends believe in you, you can accomplish almost anything.

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NHRA's 'National Dragster' paper has an excelent article on sponsorship in the November 12,1999 issue by Thomas Amshay.

While it pertains to drag racing, any sport wanting outside sponsorship (12 volt competition included) should read it.

Mr. Amshay also has a site at:
http://www.sponsorSHOP.com

for anyone that has interest in reading further.

Maybe we ought to hire a P.R. firm like them?

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OK, so the guy's site is pretty weak.

But the article tends to make me think he really knows how to position this deal with a perspective sponsor.

Maybe we ought to check him out, or somebody like him..........

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I have always felt that DB Drag belonged on ESPN and when Wayne made it happen last year I was like cool, but it needs to happen more, I mean they got bowling on there like 1 a week DB Drag should atleast have a spot every month or so, and not just DB Drag but show USAC, IASCA, and the other big competition associations too, the whole broad spectrum of car audio. As for outside sponsorship, I like the idea, but they aren't realistically gonna do it if there isn't some kind of TV coverage, you think all those companies would be on a NASCAR or NHRA car if it weren't on TV?? I think though that maybe ESPN isn't the only answer for us on the TV equation, I have watched and TNN has alot of car shows and maybe they could be the avenue we are looking for, and I know they are looking for the next big thing, I mean they got wrestling and Rollar Jam so why not DB Drag its like Alma said, they are on the same level.

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I agree. I think that dB Drag can be global, it practically is already. We have members from all over the world.

I really enjoy the TV broadcasts. There is something about hearing the music that just gets my blood rushing. I love the "Are you ready to rumbleeeee" on the dB Drag site.

I think we can go farther than TV though. We should make a dB Drag movie from finals this year. LOL. ok, that might be a stretch, but it all starts with a vision. I bet people would want to watch it. Especially if we had a commentator who went around interviewing all the teams. Wayne could talk about all the rivals and get the suspense going.. lol

Wrestling has done it, we could to. I personally don't know anything about movie marketing, but there has to be a member near hollywood that has influence, or know someone who does. As for the PR on the sponsors, I think the members should do it. If we keep things within ourselves it will be cheaper in the long run. Besides, why leave it to someone who doesn't really have our interests at heart. We know that the members would give 100% to this effort. We could start a PR committee and go from there. Its just a matter of having a few people organize a proposition with literature and some magazine articles to show how big we really are.

We need to figure out in what form do we want to have the sponsorship. In what areas will it be effective and help the most. Perhaps, the sponsor could help with the movie projects? Just a few ideas to think about..

Good luck,

Becky

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