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1LoudZ34
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Started my 3.25 cu box for my L7 today and decided that I didn't want to risk splitting this wood at all so I am attempting it with just gluing and clamping, this should still make the box structurally sound, correct? Thanks,
Josh

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I think that MIGHT work except, how are you going to keep all the pieces straight? I mean, wont they slide around a little? I would at least use some staples to be safe....actually I would not even take my chances on just glue especially with a sub like the L7 where box breackage could be a proble. Just predrill the holes and it wont split (unless you are careless)

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it won't hold together with just glue . pre-drill your holes and the wood won't split . [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by 1LoudZ34:
Started my 3.25 cu box for my L7 today and decided that I didn't want to risk splitting this wood at all so I am attempting it with just gluing and clamping, this should still make the box structurally sound, correct? Thanks,
Josh

Absolute best way is to find the Right angle things that you can clamp on the inside of the box. (Home depot or lowes will know and have them) Pre-Drill holes, Pre drill holes, pre drill holes!!!
and, ohh yeah, pre drill holes.

Liquid nails can be a hinder if its layed on too thick. Also, id advise if you are going to just use glue, fiberglass the inside of the box with some resin. At least 1/4 and inch, that way you dont have to worry about sub-sonic wave getting into any weak spot, and breaking appart the glue. Just a thought.

[ 09-27-2002, 07:28 AM: Message edited by: joelb79bumps ]

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again i've built quite a few enclosures with just clue and 30" clamps and i can(and do) jump on all of my boxes to make sure they are sturdy
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so what size drill bit do you guys use to predrill? and i assume you are using #4 drywall screws?
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I'd recommend the #6 COARSE THREAD drywall screws.. 1 5/8" long

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Hey, if ya decide to screw, try to find some FAST TAP screws. I believe thats what there called, my mom just got me some from where she works (fastner supply store) and they work lovly, only had i board have a minor split in it, and it was really close to the edge of the board. Yery nice screws, probally wont split if u are careful(and i didnt pre drill holes either, no drill bits!)

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glue alone is more than sufficient. not a fan of liquid nails though. standard wood glue is much better. I like to use a pneumatic brad nailer just to hold it together and straight though.

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if you have axcess to a brad nailer, it is the quickest and best way to support the box while the glue sets up. make sure to use enough glue. and if you really want to make the enclosure strong glass the inside of the box.
i have also built many boxes with the screw and glue method, which also works very well, but you need to take a lot more time and be careful. i like to use a #6 predrill bit, with countersink. and i use 1-1/2" #6 coarse thread drywall screws.

anyways nice name, good luck with the box.

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liquid nails is junk. Use regular wood glue (tight-bond) and my favorite so far is the polyurethane glue- EASY to sand off. IMO neway

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get a countersink bit and screw it!!

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quote:
Originally posted by asauer:
liquid nails is junk. Use regular wood glue (tight-bond) and my favorite so far is the polyurethane glue- EASY to sand off. IMO neway

Liquid Nails Rules!! especially with the exta large tubes (need the gun to match) brad nails are nice, and easy way to hold it together while waiting for it to set.

TRUE some variations of liquid nails is NOT good for boxes, but i use heavy duty construction grade.

i build boxes IN cars sometimes and have also taken them out.......with sawzalls and sledghammers...the joints were VERY strong.

Titebond II also is GREAT glue, so use what YOU want.

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1 5/8" drywall screws and 1/8" drill bit . [Wink]

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-CDT CL-51 two way component's {front}
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-1 DD 9515 in a 5 cub. box tuned
to 35 hz with 65.25 sq.inches
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