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I have a couple of pieces Of 5/8" mdf that I am going to cover in black vinyl but I need to know the best way to attach the vinyl. I have tried a glue (that has proven to be crap in the past) and 3M spray glue (not the real strong kind though). What will be my best bet to get the vinyl to glue down nice and tight with no lumps showing through? Any other vinyl tips would be appreciated. Thanks
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If you are not going to see the back of it, then just put some glue on it, then use a staple gun to hold in place on the side of the wood you would not see.
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There are some really great glues if you have a spray gun to use. If not, get the stronger 3M can stuff and use staples on the back side- always use staples to hold the vinyl.
Basically this is how you vinyl something-
You will need: glue, a stapler, staples, heat gun, good vinyl, sharp razor blades, and some patience.
You really want the vinyl to be hot. If you have a place where you can lay the vinyl so it can get warm for a few hours before hand it would be good. I sometimes lay the vinyl on the roof, hood, or windshield of a car so it can get nice and hot.
You will then need to spray both the piece to be vinyled and the vinyl with glue- we use DAP Weldwood glue at the shop...give them a good spraying of glue. Let the glue tack up on both pieces. Make sure you don't have any lumps of glue on either piece and no sawdust on the wood b/c it will show up when you are finished.
Lay the vinyl on the piece. It is best IMO to start working from the corners to the middle. At one corner, spray the vinyl and wood with the glue again- this will be on the sides and back of the piece.
Get your trusty heat gun and heat the vinyl until it gets nice and stretchy. Be careful and not burn the vinyl. Burned vinyl has a gloss finish that doesn't go away even after dying it. Once the viynl is hot, pull it around the corners and staple it to the backside of the piece. You should be able to heat the vinyl enough so that you don't get any wrinkles in the corners. Use alot of staples b/c the pull will be the tightest there, and that is where if it starts to peal it will be there. Remember to glue, heat and staple.
Once you got that corner down, then work your way around the piece heating, glueing and stapling.
If you need to trim off any excess in the corners, use your razor blades to cut all of the bunched up vinyl- this is another reason to use lots of staples.
Once you make it around the piece, then trim your excess with a razor blade. Then you can dye the vinyl if you want.
Some notes- the sharper the curves, the harder it will to vinyl. Some really tight inside curves may not have the vinyl strecthed all the way in. You will have to make relief cuts on the inside curves to get it to pull right. Remember that the glue and staples are your friend. You may have to turn the stapler so you can get alot of staples in the radias. Be very careful not to cut the relief cuts with the staples.
Never use armour all or similar products on pieces you have vinyled. It will eventually cause the glue to release.
Get some decent vinyl to work with. The more flexible it is, the easier it will be to use.
Heat is your friend.
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Not sure about the Sounddomain vinyl but most people I know use selectproducts.com for vinyl. You can also use fishmanaudio.com Posts: 21 | From: Alpharetta, Ga. | Registered: Oct 2002
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Aside from the Weldwood glue that you mentioned (Mabeita), do you know any other glue that'll do the job well? I've used the 3M spray (the expensive one, not the ordinary) and the vinyl fell off the next day when I parked under the sun. Any other glue suggestions? (preferably the ones that I can buy off of Home Depot) thanks!
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There is nothing wrong with 3M Super 77 if used properly, it takes a good amount and some holding but will work. If used with the contact cement made for heavy duty tiling, you will never remove the vinal. NOTE: with the tiling "cement" it is best to wait between an hour to overnight for thick layers for best tack.
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