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i can see the fun involved in finding a loud part of your vehicle and trying to get the mic to read some insane score, but i can't see why people get so excited about it.
this guy does a 158.9 with one 10" idq. it sounds like a super-impressive score. but when i post a score like 138.3 (on dash, of course), it sounds like crap compared to this guy.
i'm not trying to start any flames here. i just want to hear other's opinions on the matter. thanks!
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the only people i see who act all great about some bogus outlaw score are new guys...99% of usaci outlaw guys run with the mic inthe kick..you cant really put it anywhere anymore that will help spl because of new rules..and in the kick..there is uually a gain most time 2-5 db from drag legal ,is what i usually see..dont worry about what people think they are doiun just learn to know the differance..
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I posted this in the genral forum as well. Its funny 2 great minds think alike.
I told that guy you can't put that mic anywhere thats why I asked what orgs hosted that event if it was some local show they don't know the rules. IF it was USACi they weren't enforcing the rules.
Oh well your still silly and legal scores iwhat counts anyway. Tell that guy to do a legal run and see what he puts up. I can bet it will be allot lower than the score you hit.
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that is the biggest load of crap in the world! There is no way that a single IDQ 10" sub, sealed, can hit that on a respectable mic. And the fact that he thinks Outlaw events allow the mic to be placed anywhere is even worse. This year they started using the globe, and unless you are doing USACi legal, it has to be under the kickpanel.
I wish local comps were ran w/ rules of some type. If one sealed 10 w/ 500 watts can do high 150s, in a (stock)standard cab truck, you know something isn't right.
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hellooooo....this wasn't an outlaw event, this was a Whitlee (garbage) event. nothing to do with USACi
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Wow, its wonderful to see Ranger buddies supporting each other like this! Yes am the guy from the Ranger forums that put up the BS numbers that everyone is jumping all over. So hate me for being excited that I won an SPL event with a regular cab Ranger that I've been working on since June of 01. Sorry for having such an obsession about it. I said multiple times that this event was held by Whitlee, and you can place the mic wherever you want! Yes I know the USAC rulebook, and I never mentioned USAC. I never claimed to be a top competitor. And nothing is wrong with their mic. At the last show I met a guy that did 168 outlaw at a USAC event with 7 L715s w/7 JBL 1200.1s, and he did a mid 165 at the Whitlee show. This mic does not post outrageous numbers. Yes the rules are very loose and not "universal" like USAC, but everybody had a fair chance and I won with one IDQ 10, plain and simple. My setup caters to that type competition. I am not some ignorant little boy running around bragging about a crappy setup. I have been in legal USAC competitions. So far my highest legal reading is 139.1 dB. Yes that is with the mic on the dash with my windows rolled up with an official USAC CD. That's not as loud as I like, but I only have 1.26 cubic feet and at the time 500 watts to work with. Hopefully I can hit 140 with my new amp. Once again.... I know USAC rules, please get off my back. I never claimed to be ruling USAC outlaw events, I don't know where anybody here gets this from. This was not some crappy local do-whatever-the-hell-you-want show. And no it was not held in Starkville, MS. Whitlee puts on many shows across the South and does enforce THEIR rules and sees to it that the events are all fair. As I said in my post from the Ranger forums, please do not talk crap about somebody's system unless you know the full story.
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you need to remember what forum you are posting on anything besides legal means zip here...
i never dogged your score, i just said it sounded a tad high. Hell, i even congratulated you on it But the way you were carrying on over there you were making it out that your SPL in your truck was really high. You never once mentioned your legal SPL readings in that post...that is what many people were getting at.
I got a thing in the mail today from Whitlee with a bunch of event flyers...i will never attend another event due to the way the last one (and first one) was run that i attended. You do NOT touch the sensitivity on the mic from competitor to competitor. If your mic is maxing out then it needs calibrating lol.
Anyway...again, congrats on the win and please understand where we are coming from.
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well i haven't replied to this yet, but i agree outlaw means jack. i went to an outlaw comp and me and a teammate were supposed to compete on the dash but somethin didn't work out for him so what did i do? screw on the dash i went for the win! and i damn well took it, will i ever claim the 159.7 in the port? nope. but it was fun in a way. just like hittin 166.3 was fun with a different sub and box, outlaw = just tryin to win to me. a trophy is a trophy, especially when u know u will whoop everyone there on the dash no problem. now the real challenge on an outlaw comp to me would be to beat everyone with the mic on the dash while they stick theirs in the port, that'd be the shiznit
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quote:Originally posted by Sir_Stickybuds: now the real challenge on an outlaw comp to me would be to beat everyone with the mic on the dash while they stick theirs in the port, that'd be the shiznit
again...the mic IN the port IS NOT OUTLAW!!! that is called port wars! Don't know if that was mentioned in this post yet, but it seems people really don't understand there is a difference. There's also outlaw extreme which allows you to put the mic behind the "b" pillar, regular outlaw must stay in front of the "a" pillar.
Also, the mic must be facing towards the front of the vehicle (no pointing towards the trunk) and be 4" away from any surface (hence the 8" diameter globe they are supposed to use)...
so when you say outlaw, don't mean port wars or outlaw extreme...three different things
sir_sticky...you shoulda tried dB5, it's kinda like drag racing, more so than db drag racing imo. In regular drag racing you have a reaction time and then a distance to cover as fast as you can. With db drag you are given 30 seconds to do whatever score you can, most people do it on their first burp and the other 20 some odd seconds are spent chillin with maybe one or two more burps. NOW...in dB5, when the readout says "go!" your legal SPL is averaged over 5 seconds. If you start playing too late it hurts your score, play too soon and you're DQ'd.
now THAT is SPL drag racing hehehe (not takin away from db drag...but like i said dB5 fits more in the true nature of what drag racing is, don't go til we say, and then give it what you got).
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