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and about the classes keeping people out, it didn't keep any of us from competing, i had no idea about classes when i started i just went to see how loud i was. And above someone said you need like 8 5000 watt amps to be competitive, only if you want to be one of the top dogs, most new people don't want to be a world champ the 1st season out, you grow into it. and by looking at the show results, with anything you'd place top 8 at a show. about the extreme stock class, is their even enough extreme cars to have to worry about them at a show? so your bass racer takes 2nd in extreme cause the 1 extreme car left showed up.
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i was speaking of limiting batteries in bass race, or having an extreme bass race class. if these cars can't be driven, or get too heavy people will begin losing interest from all the hassle involved in transporting them. remember first and foremost everyone on here got involved because they liked a nice loud system in there car. once you've got a "stationary car" that can only be used at shows, it's defeating the purpose.
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A lot of good ideas and I agree with an extreme stock class, I will be under that classification soon.
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almost all bass race vehicles are driven to the show, I see no need to change the rules there, anyone can win the lower classes
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all vehicles were driven to dbdrag and iasca back in the late 90's. but just like then, it's now getting out of hand in bass race. so if there is an organization around in 3 years, it will be the same. all the bassrace cars will grow into monsters that are unsafe to be driven and must be towed.
quote:Originally posted by clkwrkorg36: i was speaking of limiting batteries in bass race, or having an extreme bass race class. if these cars can't be driven, or get too heavy people will begin losing interest from all the hassle involved in transporting them. remember first and foremost everyone on here got involved because they liked a nice loud system in there car. once you've got a "stationary car" that can only be used at shows, it's defeating the purpose.
why limit batteries or power in bass race? if you can do the number you have just as much of a chance to win as the guy next to you, it's about skill and hitting your number, bass race is fine as it is IMO
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I say put a limmit on power in street class like
2k in street stock 3k in street a 5k in street b and 10k in street c let every one use a 850sq in battery and put a limmit on runs of wire.
street stock one run each with a 80amp fuse
street a 2 runs each pos and neg with a 100 amp fuse
street b 4 runs ea with a 250 watt fuse or braker.
street c 8 runs 4 of ea and no fuses.
and to make it intresting like street stock play music.
no podeums and the car must be driven to the show and show proof of reg and use the same rules on matting and clamp power and put a sub limmit for each class.
street stock 2-10`s
street a 2-10s 1-12
street b 2-10`s 2-12`s 1-15
street c 3-10`s 3-12s 2-15`s 1-18
and offer cash prize at all 3x events 50% of the entrys per class devided between the top 3 tis will make the classes bigger and then it all comes down to the build.
street stock street a can only run a 2.5 in coil or smaller stamped steel baskets and paper cone.
street b the same but with a 3in coil
street c open this way you dont have every one crying will i just spent x amount of money on subs that i can use.
it will take some getting use to but i bet this will be the most fun you will ever have its not as easy as some think to do street stock and its fun to boot i like building and when it comes down to power well put a limmit on it and see how many corps start getting back into the game.
put a limmit on subs and look at how manny corps can put a sub out there.
start putting money on the line and see how many of the other competors jump ship and do drag with classes that even they can compet in it level the playing field and makes it fun to boot.
and the cool thing about it it saves on runs and big power amps and with the one battery fits all you can go to a lower class or add a lil more power with out braking your pocket no need to strap amps no need to buy 5k woth the amps and if ya think about it its somthing every one can do.
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we need to stop messing with the classes every season, let people build and use the same set-up for more then 1 year.
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retired extreme 1-2 competitor new toy: 91 ranger on bags. ss 3-4 here i come....on hold Posts: 683 | From: trevorton, pa | Registered: May 2002
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First you have to get dB Drag back in the attention of EVERYONE, not just the people who frequent this forum and the competitors who don't come here. dB Drag basically needs to be restarted back to it's roots. Start off with having dB Drags in conjunction with other events to bring in other competitors and spectators from the other events. Recently I went to a 2x dB Drag event in Macon, GA. There was a total 20 competitors for both Drag and Bass Race, some competitors competed in both so the actual number of total competitors is lower. For a 2x event I couldn't believe it. Now not long after that show I went to a car show where it started off with no SPL competition. There were over 200 cars at the event with thousands of spectators. I talked to the event promoter and asked if he had considered having a stereo event in conjunction with his car show. After a while of talking he said I could run the show if I would like just to see how things would go. I ended up calling up one of the local shops to borrow their meter for the rest of the day, which they did and I greatly appreciated. The show was about 1/4 over as me and a few friends went around asking people if they would like to compete charging $5 each with a cash return to the 3 loudest competitors. In the end we had over 50 competitors. We discussed dB Drag and other car audio organizations with everyone who wanted to talk.
Basically what I hope everyone sees from this is when dB Drag or a single style car audio event (SPL) can't draw people, you need to go where the people are and be willing to be lower on the card. You start from the bottom and build up from there.
Draw in spectators and they will slowly turn into competitors if you make it worth their while. You have to make things appealing to the very entry level person and give them a reason to want to move up in the classes. Go back to the roots no matter how many seasoned competitors whine and cry about quitting. Everything would be much easier on everyone if dB Drag would take a few steps back and just regroup.
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I've got an idea that will bring people back -- STFU. that's all, just STFU for once. what do you think the newbies say when they come here and see a bunch of bitching? Or Wayne? why would Wayne even sift through a bunch of bitching when he'll never...ever be able to please you ladies?
If Wayne ever packs his ball, goes home and unplugs his interweb forum, what will you bitch about then?
for fvck sake, just stfu at least for the next few weeks.
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quote:Originally posted by deaf tones: I've got an idea that will bring people back -- STFU. that's all, just STFU for once. what do you think the newbies say when they come here and see a bunch of bitching? Or Wayne? why would Wayne even sift through a bunch of bitching when he'll never...ever be able to please you ladies?
If Wayne ever packs his ball, goes home and unplugs his interweb forum, what will you bitch about then?
for fvck sake, just stfu at least for the next few weeks.
my point is this...
Midwest SPL had 101 people at their finals...
Db drag in the US is going to have what? 70 something?
That means SOMETHING needs to change to get a competitor base built back up
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Ya'll are talking two different points. Making cheaper classes like Justin is saying will help bring in more competitors. Make the competition something to see & watch like Ed is saying will help bring in the spectators.
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quote:Originally posted by tommyk90: SPL competitions will never be a big spectator sport, both in person and on t.v. because, well, it's boring as hell to watch. If it wasn't for bassrace and loud vehicles that demo I'd wager that spectators would be a big fat ZERO. Nobody cares about seeing a crx fart out 60 hz.
Besides the fact that 99% of people out there don't understand how it works/don't care.
If you want spectators, make it a big car show/hydraulic competiton/bikini contest/etc. like usaci does. That's the only reason their finals has spectators.
You can't expect spectators to show up when there's nothing to spectate. And no watching cars burp isn't interesting. Think about SBN, how many spectators were on the car show/manufacturer booth side vs. the spl side?
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