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I, for one would like to see the attendance brought up at big shows. How about there be a limited number of 3x events. Regionals or whatever you want to call them. Have 6 3x's per year, maybe 8. USACi finals could be the first. Then have NW, NE, SE, SW, NC, SC, Midwest and Mideast. Have it to where it is mandatory for a final's invite to attend one of these shows. It would create more competition as well as bringing alot of people together that normally would only compete at finals against each other. Plus if you don't qualify, it's like you weren't there, so you would have to go to another 3x to get your invite.
Over seas could be done in a similar fashion. You could make it to where you have to hit 4 singles, 1 double, and 1 triple along with having enough points. Doubles would be for points and certified scores only.
Just some ideas running through my head. Let me know what you think.
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I love the idea of US regionals, we have the equivalent in Europe, be it UK, Belgium, Holland etc.
Id like for it to be mandatory for attendance at one of these events to make finals but some people wont be able to hit the one local to them because of work or family commitments and you cant rule people out because of that.
How many X3s were there in the US last year? How many double and how many singles?
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I am definetly in favor of limited 3X's. World Records are set at these events and we need attendance and participation to be up at these events. More competitors and more foot traffic would encourage more participation from manufacturers and vendors. I've said many times over the past few years that multis, especially 3X's, need to be a big SHOW. Advertising needs to get better and shops need to work with each other to develope rivalries and increase participation. I could ramble on forever, but I will spare everyone.
Multis account for approximately a quarter of all shows.
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Exactly. 3x'ers should account for 2% of the shows max!
I know everyone hates this analogy, but in Columbus in 99 or 2000, the 3x they had there was absolutely off the hook. over 100 cars and brackets full. That was by far the best 3x EVER in my book, outside of SBN of course. But the commonality of these is that there are a lot of cars. Lots of cars = lots of competition. The thing is, with what I proposed, it would be easy to police. Hell it's already being done on the competitors results page. Singles are not filled. Doubles are filled with green, and triples are filled with yellow.
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Doubles are one seventh, triples one ninth.
Thats roughly 13% and 11% respectively, leaving singles at 76%.
US only and all calculations off the top of my head.
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There are definitely too many multi-point events. Its quite obvious that the number of multis is causing the horrid attendance.
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i think the lack of competitors is causing the attendance issues. even with reduction in points every class didnt have 16 people at finals for it.
If we double the number of competitors wanting to go to finals now then we could double attendance at shows.
quote:Originally posted by alrile: I, for one would like to see the attendance brought up at big shows. How about there be a limited number of 3x events. Regionals or whatever you want to call them. Have 6 3x's per year, maybe 8. USACi finals could be the first. Then have NW, NE, SE, SW, NC, SC, Midwest and Mideast. Have it to where it is mandatory for a final's invite to attend one of these shows. It would create more competition as well as bringing alot of people together that normally would only compete at finals against each other. Plus if you don't qualify, it's like you weren't there, so you would have to go to another 3x to get your invite.
Over seas could be done in a similar fashion. You could make it to where you have to hit 4 singles, 1 double, and 1 triple along with having enough points. Doubles would be for points and certified scores only.
Just some ideas running through my head. Let me know what you think.
Mr. Alan Riley now I'm mad at you....how are we not going to get drunk at SBN (3X show)....come on!!!!!
I think you did this post drunk and forgot SBN is one bad a$$ show You put every other state but Florida...
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quote:Originally posted by alrile: I, for one would like to see the attendance brought up at big shows. How about there be a limited number of 3x events. Regionals or whatever you want to call them. Have 6 3x's per year, maybe 8. USACi finals could be the first. Then have NW, NE, SE, SW, NC, SC, Midwest and Mideast. Have it to where it is mandatory for a final's invite to attend one of these shows. It would create more competition as well as bringing alot of people together that normally would only compete at finals against each other. Plus if you don't qualify, it's like you weren't there, so you would have to go to another 3x to get your invite.
Over seas could be done in a similar fashion. You could make it to where you have to hit 4 singles, 1 double, and 1 triple along with having enough points. Doubles would be for points and certified scores only.
Just some ideas running through my head. Let me know what you think.
Mr. Alan Riley now I'm mad at you....how are we not going to get drunk at SBN (3X show)....come on!!!!!
I think you did this post drunk and forgot SBN is one bad a$$ show You put every other state but Florida...
Pipo, Pipo, Pipo.........you are supposed to suck from the other end of the pipe!!!! j/k What I put up there were regions, not states. Well some could be states, but my abbreviations are:
SW = Southwest SE = Southeast NC = North Central SC = South Central etc.
Don't make me come down there!!!
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quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: LOL, I THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING ALL MY SHOWS BE A 2X EVENT
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Big Oso I think you are wrong on this one. Just for the simple fact that Wayne would like to continue to put money in his pocket for a very long time and would not be able to do this if shows stopped all together (or slowed down dramatically). Making a few ajustments now will be better for him and his pocketbook in the future.
Just my .02
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quote:Originally posted by //bonecrusher//: Big Oso I think you are wrong on this one. Just for the simple fact that Wayne would like to continue to put money in his pocket for a very long time and would not be able to do this if shows stopped all together (or slowed down dramatically). Making a few ajustments now will be better for him and his pocketbook in the future.
Just my .02
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Alan I preached on this last year...I even went and looked up how many shows were in which region...i just got overlooked though
I LOVE THIS IDEA! omg could you imagine full brackets at a 3x again!
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I attended 4 3X and 2 2X this year. Furthest distance traveled from where I was at the time = 4 hours one way. I even missed out on 2 3X's and 3 2X's that were within that distance. This is just not right. Now part of this was because I spent 6 weeks in Chicago this summer, but its still valid.
BTW, because of some out of town travel with work, I attended 3 3X in JUNE!! That really shouldn't be possible without major travel.
Oh, one thing I just noticed that was cool, on back to back days I competed at a 2X in Topeka KS and then a 2X in Union MO. I did the same score at both shows, but in different classes (basically the same setup). I lost to Brad Firgard in Topeka, and Kevin Koller in Union, both of whom became the World Champions in their respective classes. Man I feel lucky.
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we have 0 mulipont events in belgium , we still have no date for belgium finals . so i wood say keep the multiponters , so you can set records !
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I dont know that the rule would necessarily have to apply overseas. I dont know that there is much of an attendance problem...
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