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competition 11m cb shoot-out. this is a sport which in many ways is simmiliar to db drag, yet as with drag racing on the "strip" in the area of your favorite weekend cruize spot it is illegal(a FELONY according to FCC law). through my OBSERVASIONS of this sport the alternator of choice has been the Lecce-Neville. which, is made by a company that produces MANY MASS manufactured electrical systems alternators, motors, ect. the site for the company is http://www.prestolite.com/aopage.html these cb shoot-out guys and gals are somewhat organized with the sport, they pool money for cash prizes (not trophies), and have classes based on # of output transistors in solid state amps and some other ways for A/C voltage tube amplifiers. if you want to build your own amp and compete that is fine. all the rules and classes are fairly basic, but fair. the piont im getting to is that some of these amplifiers that these guys and gals build produce in upwards of 100,000 watts(granted they power elaborate antenna configurations rather than subs). the current demands of these vehicles surpass anything that i have seen in comp. car audio so i just wanted to let you all know what type of comp vehicles i have seen the most current and voltage demands in and what types of alternators and voltage equip. that they use......hope that the info is useful, and that you can get from it WHAT it is that YOU need?
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A once CB power freak(little over 3KW), I've been to those comps there wicked. Also know of a guy who did a little over 100KW, he had 8-250 Leece-Nevelle alts. Nitrous Oxide had to be used to keep the van running when he keyed his mic. Yes these guys know there @#$% when it comes to a vehicles electrical setups. Oh and he had a 7' peace of coax as big as your angle, $900 for coax, $200 for connectors on the ends, and we're not even going to talk about what he had for amps$$$$
Anyway just thought I'd add this.
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Thanks for the info , i found it very helpful since i need a special 200amp alt for my 6.5l turbo deisel. Its got the same exact engine thats in a hummer , so you can imagine how difficult it is to find parts for . Im pretty confident that they will be able to provide me with a alternator that will outperform the top names like Ohio and such .
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exterminator...glad that this is of help to you. and yes this people in the cb shoot-out know their !@#$ when it comes to suppling the juice that they need, and from what i have seen first hand it is a hella lot
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tweak...glad to see some people like us here. but i have only ran @ 1kw, had to quit to many complaints from around the way...lol. still crack down a little in the mobile though. 30w swing 60w just enough to get up the road.
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Yea , i have many good friends that are into cb's at high power . I was under the impression that mobile amps for cb's were called linears . Or is that just a manufacture name of a amp. My buddies never had anything big in their vehicles but one had 100 ft. antenna on his house , he lived next door to me and everytime he keyed up it would scramble our tv set . Kinda cool , but he had to take it down because the fcc wrote him and told him it was either to tall or pushing too much power . He had like 10 or 20k amp . This was 13yrs ago . I never imagined its like that in vehicles now . Thats way cool!!!
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Yes they are refered to as linear amplifiers because of the linear amplification. We'll I'm starting to get out of it to much stuff in my truck between my stereo and cb stuff in the truck its in now(just one 8-pill) and I sold the one I had it big setup in, that and it has started to lose its fun. I had two 8-pills stacked to make a 16-pill and drove it with a 4-pill(for thase who dont know pills are what we call transistors because they look like pills). A KW doesn't sound like alot but you have to consider that is pulling around a 100A+ constant so that'll give some and idea of what this takes. The reson for my 16-pill not doing its pottential was I only had 1 250 alt going to two of those big 8-cell batteries running it at 16 volts and needed a little more amperage(atleast on more alt.)
Sorry for the long post adn I'm glad to see some of us here too.
Oh yeah Have you ever lit up the stop lights across and intersection....hehe A friend told me about it I didn't even realize I was doing it until I looked up(all 3 lights on on both were lit on my side.)
I just wish I knew what some of those guys know about pulley ratios and such.
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http://www.bigradios.com/ there you go tweak....i hope that will lead you to some people that can tell you about pulley ratios.....oh and no i have never lit-up a signal light ...but have lit-up floresent lights by placing them close to the antenna...lol they have some movies on here to of shoot-outs you can actually see their alternator set-ups too......everything is here to lead you in the right direction about your alternator questions...IMO have fun! ------------------
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tweak...i think it would be cool to have thses events at the same place. dbdrag and cb shoot-outs...but i think that all the RF from the cb guys would blow our stereo systems up...lol
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Light up stop lights!!!! Whoa , thats some massive power . Even a flourescent , wow .. Now i REALLY got to see one of these systems !! I remember them telling me how a pin in a coaxe will blow up their radio's . Kinda sabotage thing they sometimes talked about. I would be very nervous about showing anyone , be worried about someone pinning my coaxe . That would probably cause your radio to explode violently . Got any pics , i would love to see a high powered mobile cb ? Got any horror stories dealing with this industry ? I imagine they are quite severe compared to the low power of car audio.
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wow...i never realized the interest in this sport from some of you here...still IMO the db drag is alot more fun. anyways exterminator visit the link that i left for tweak, it is called bigradios.com. if you want to see what it is that they do in the cb shoot-outs. the only reason that i started this thread was so that some of us could get a little education from the shoot out guys about supply currents and voltages....more or less what it is that they do to get the JUICE that they need ....cause it is alot JUICE that they use .....but have fun with it all anyways...learning can be just that
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Yeah I know the guy or atleast talk to him that runs that sight. Also know the guy that makes Davmade amps(probably one of the best known in the world). Exterminator I've sold most of my equipment except for a 8-pill box(Texas Star-1200) I bought to drive the other setup I had planned, but I just couldn't see spending that kinda money. It'll do about 1300w on a stock Nissan alt with 1-pill driver, not bad. It measures 3"x8"x20"(HxWxD). But I've got the pair for sale now. That is because of College and work. Oh by teh way I'm only 21, so I'm sure you can understand why I'm getting out of it ecm_3 to much time(seting up and maintaining), money(more power-more power), and headaches from locals when there VCR's eject tapes and touch lamps and motion lights going on and off as you pass(I understand why though).
I have to agree the Keydown comps and DB-Drag would be neat as far as sharing of knowledge, but I dont think they would go well together. Example I had to put toggle switches at my amps remoted turn ons, becasue the linears turned it all on, ecm_3 I was using Beldin-213 coax(the stuffs as big as your ring finger).
I've even built a 2-piller, a project for one my Electrical Engeneering classes before I finished them.
Yes even though I'm young I study and research my hobbies very thoroughly, that is why my intrest have gone to car audio. There are so many aspects and challanges that it has become a pass time.
Changing the subject alittle I have a Extended Cab Nissan with 2 JL15W6's off of a Memphis 1000D, and my Head piece is a Pioneer AVX-7000CD combined with teh AVM-P7000R( that is the multimedia deck and Master Control unit). I have fiberglass kicks I maid that house a 6.5" component set adn a 5.25 components in the doors. My next task is upgrading the alt for this truck which will be a task(different from my old comp truck CHEVY, hehe).
Well enough of my endless blabbering.
It is good to see some intrest in other hobbies too.
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