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Hello guys. If you disconnect all of your rear speakers, this will produce the best sound staging for the front, right? Please correct me if I am wrong.
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I prefer a small amount of rear fill. Not enough to notice that there is sound coming from behind, but enough to notice when you shut them off. At least that is how I felt with my previous system, I haven't played with it at all in my new setup.
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That will work, or put a couple pair of speakers/comps up front taking power from an amp and the rears taking power from the deck - or smaller amp. I have used midbass and midrange drivers in the rears before for ambiance, but not enough to make you feel like you're sitting the back seat.
It all comes down to how you like it, but shutting off the rears/taking them out will work. That may remove the warmth of extra midbass though.
This sort of depends on the dynamic ability of the front stage.. If it is loud and clean, then by all means, fade it to the front mostly.. However, if it is not capable of satisfying you, don't worry about that, just leave it settled sorta in the middle..
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I agree with all above, and have a suggestion of my own. If you wire the negatives from the rear speakers together, then wire the R+ to the RightRear+, and the L+ to the LeftRear+, and leave the negatives just tied together, you will get a neat little surround decoder, free of charge. It really does work, and using it this way, you can control the volume level of the rears using the fader control off your head unit! Try it!
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I rarely use rearfill. But I'm willing to agree that rearfill at very low volume does not totally destroy the soundstage/image. However I don't think rearfill is necessary.
Just thought I'd mention my opinion since it was somewhat different than the ones above.
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Just to add Audiophyle's idea.. To get a processor-free rear ambience connect left and right "-" from the amp to the left rear speaker and L&R "+" to the right rear speaker. This small thing (proposed by Alan Burton)adds amaizing depth to the front sound stage.
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I mean exactly what it sounds like. You take the R Rear + off the head unit, and connect it to the R rear + speaker lead, and do the same on the left side. Twist the negatives together, and leave them connected to each other, and nothing else! It only allows out of phase signal to pass, which IS the original Dolby surround processing.
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It's about time I hear someone else talk about the free surround thing. I realized this trick years ago and always wanted to try it in an automobile, but never have. I am going to take your word on it working fine and maybe try it. I will let you all know if the deck holds out. hope so... haha
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I mean exactly what it sounds like. You take the R Rear + off the head unit, and connect it to the R rear + speaker lead, and do the same on the left side. Twist the negatives together, and leave them connected to each other, and nothing else! It only allows out of phase signal to pass, which IS the original Dolby surround processing.
DrHertz, your right, but, since your not going to ground, it's of no consequence. I have not had a single deck harmed by wiring in this way.
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here's what you do, like he said, you wire the positive wires just like normal (left to left positive and right ot right positive) THEN you take a piece of wire and connec the left speaker's negative to the right speakers negative, so they'll be a little wire link between the 2 speakers attached to each other's negatives. now, that leaves you with 2 negative wires coming from the head unit (or amp) so you just twist them together and black tape them (don't connect them to anything). that means the phase will come from the positivess only, i see it totally, it's a great idea.
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Yep, except, you do NOT, repeat NOT connect the negative leads from the radio together!! Clip them off and tape them up separately, connected to NOTHING! The only negatives that get connected together are the speaker negatives! Otherwise, the output IC of the radio could be damaged! I'm working on a visio drawing and will post it as soon as it's done...
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that's the one thing i didn't understand, when you said twist the negatives together, i knew you meant the speaker negs, but did you also mean the HU negs. i was thinking this guys a bonehead, that'll kill the HU's output. now that you have clarified it your less of a bonehead. i did it once with the negatives on my home system, talk about fire hazard, FD almost fined me that time.
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