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I was driving on my way home, not even listening to any bass music when all of a sudden the subs stopped working and I immediately smelled something burning.. okay I thought it's just the Shockers' glue so I ignored it, but then the fume is getting worse so I pulled on the shoulder lane and popped the trunk - and saw the D2 LITERALLY on fire and the trunk was filled with smoke!! I was so shocked that I don't know what to do so I removed my shirt and covered the thing just to stop the fire.
The amp has been installed for a month, working flawlessly and it just caught fire for no reason at all. (2 ohm load) Mind you, this is the SECOND PH-D2 that I've used because the other one just died, didn't burn, it just died. I've been using an MTX 81000D for 4 months before I switched to Earthquake and that MTX amp NEVER failed.
BAD experience with a D2 amp..sorry but I will NEVER touch any Earthquake amp again. $350 dollars went up in smoke.
The diode that I'm holding was literally removed from the circuitboard because the leads melted. The other diode (pictured) has been charred beyond recognition. Part of the toroid has also been burned. On the top, two other small diodes burned, and one MOSfet cracked. I inspected everything - The woofer terminals are NOT shorted, gains set properly, the system is set at 2 ohm load. No modifications were made to this amp, not even the 20A-30A fuse. It just caught fire for NO REASON AT ALL.
I should have saved that 350 bones and bought hundred packs of cigarettes, I could have made more smoke.
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Wow, that's the first time i heard of the burning up @2ohm. That's terrible. I feel for you man. A loss like that is a big one. How did the d2 stack up against the MTX amp? How much louder was it? did you use a seperate crossover? Sounds to me like something went very wrong, and EQ will say it is was your fault, that it must of been consumer error that caused it. Do you have a warranty on the amp? If it's only a month old isn't there still some kind of warranty on it. What kind of amp are you gonna get now? another MTX?
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I was about to get about 4 of them I'm thinking thats not such a good idea after some of the horror stories, especially considering I was going to mod them. Please someone tell me some good stuff about them.
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Jay: I'm thinking about going back to 81000D. Although I noticed a "little bit" of improvement after switching to EQ, the difference isn't really noticeable, and the MTX amp just kept working and working and working...
quote:Originally posted by orphan440: I was about to get about 4 of them I'm thinking thats not such a good idea after some of the horror stories, especially considering I was going to mod them. Please someone tell me some good stuff about them.
The 2001 models probably have some changes made to it, so if you're planning to get one, might as well get the 2001. Don't worry, I've also seen a D300HC release the magic smoke so EQ isn't the only one that can do it
quote:...saw the D2 LITERALLY on fire and the trunk was filled with smoke!!...this is the SECOND PH-D2 that I've used because the other one just died, didn't burn, it just died. I've been using an MTX 81000D for 4 months before I switched to Earthquake and that MTX amp NEVER failed.
which one was louder,and by how much?
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quote:Originally posted by pipebomb: christ, if a product is catching on fire in your car, that would be a big hazard. i smell a lawsuit......
All products have a disclaimer against improper use, misuse, and abuse of products. You can not prove that it was the product alone that failed without user error, and would be very difficult to sue IMO. The '00 models are less stable than the new ones so I hear, but they aer still power packed and inexpensive. I have seen multiple amps go up in smoke at shows, it 's just that when there's a majority using the same brand, like the d2's, the more that are going to break, and it looks like a high number, but in relation to the total, it's not as high as it seems. The d2's are powerful amps, but everyone expects huge gains from adding power and switching amps, when that's not the case. The difference in power is only equal to a db or less difference in SPL. I saw less than 0.5db gain from going to the d2 from my a2200hc.
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ive never heard of amps Catching on fireand popping fireballs as much as ive heard about the d2. the d2 is the most dangerous amp when it blows!!! ha sparks just go a flyin'!!!!!
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Sorry to hear about your loss man... I would be really pissed!! Did you get the amp new??? is it under warranty???
So you could only notice a small differance from the MTX to the D2. is that right??? I see all this D2 hipe & people asking if they should run 2 81000d's or a single D2 & talk of 3000 watts from a D2. Is that all BS or what???
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Where was the amp mounted? what Ga power and ground wire was you using also?
I've never heard of any amp starting fires but every brand has there bad apples , O wait!!!!I forgot...In the 9th grade my friend had a "thunp amp" that brought up a big cloud of smoke in his , the amp was mounted under his seat in a 67'BUG
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I put a Phoenix Gold QX2350 in a Civic. Well the guy brought it back about a week later he came back and said the amp cuts out. So I told him to turn it on and play it, so he did and he was playing it loud too. Well it cut out and I turn around to look at it and there are flames coming out of it. He had a bottle of water in his hand that he was drinking so I grabbed it out of his hand and poured in on the amp and put out the fire. The amp was running 4 ohms mono with a 8 awg power and ground on a pair of Orion XTR 12s. I put another one in the car and haven't seen him since.
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My D2 blew up at 4ohm! hows that for stoopid... I only had it for about 3 weeks and up she went at my first comp... This was a fully modded one, my mate bought the exact same amp from the exact same setup aswell, he ran his at 0.5ohm no problems... twas a sad sad day...
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quote:Originally posted by sepp: I was driving on my way home, not even listening to any bass music when all of a sudden the subs stopped working and I immediately smelled something burning.. okay I thought it's just the Shockers' glue so I ignored it, but then the fume is getting worse so I pulled on the shoulder lane and popped the trunk - and saw the D2 LITERALLY on fire and the trunk was filled with smoke!! I was so shocked that I don't know what to do so I removed my shirt and covered the thing just to stop the fire.
The amp has been installed for a month, working flawlessly and it just caught fire for no reason at all. (2 ohm load) Mind you, this is the SECOND PH-D2 that I've used because the other one just died, didn't burn, it just died. I've been using an MTX 81000D for 4 months before I switched to Earthquake and that MTX amp NEVER failed.
BAD experience with a D2 amp..sorry but I will NEVER touch any Earthquake amp again. $350 dollars went up in smoke.
The diode that I'm holding was literally removed from the circuitboard because the leads melted. The other diode (pictured) has been charred beyond recognition. Part of the toroid has also been burned. On the top, two other small diodes burned, and one MOSfet cracked. I inspected everything - The woofer terminals are NOT shorted, gains set properly, the system is set at 2 ohm load. No modifications were made to this amp, not even the 20A-30A fuse. It just caught fire for NO REASON AT ALL.
I should have saved that 350 bones and bought hundred packs of cigarettes, I could have made more smoke.
No offense, but that's just frekin hillarious! And you put your stirt over the amp to stop the fire Anyways, I wonder what people were thinking if they saw you on the side of the ride with flames coming out of your trunk, haha
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We had a Kicker 500 SS flame out at volume 2 , barely listening volume. 4 ohm bridge Just toasting up the car!!! It had a backup battery which helped feed it because only the front battery got disconnected. It burned right the board!!! The thing that gets me is all 3 fuses never popped! Nothing to stop further progression of the flame out, it's just like when a light bulb goes out, all at once.
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