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I really dont know this. For some reason I would think the SQ guys tend to spend more. This is just a quick poll I am tring to sneak past the mods so....
Who do you think spends more -time -money -tweaking -leg work to get materials -ect.
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quote:Originally posted by PHILESTER: I really dont know this. For some reason I would think the SQ guys tend to spend more. This is just a quick poll I am tring to sneak past the mods so....
Who do you think spends more -time -money -tweaking -leg work to get materials -ect.
hmmmmm...
thats a REAL hard question.
sum people spend months just building a box and crazy money on subs for spl
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sum people spend long hours tweaking positioning and buying those expensive component spekers.
so i think its mainly a tie depending on how into it people are.
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SQ can get wayyy more expensive wayyy faster. For example SPL you need subs and amps basicly. SQ you needs subs,amps,highs,crossovers,timealignment,eqs,and everything must be high quality. So in general SQ is more expensive to compete nation wide.
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doughboy I agree with you but how many SQ guys have 16 batteries 16 amps and 4 alternators. That is what can really get expensive. Also you are trashing a car. Should that not be considered a cost for the SPL guy. just some thoughts.
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wow...tough question.. I guess it will determine on how much u are actually into it.. a sq car doesn't have to cost that much to sound good, same goes for an spl vehicle..
the thing with spl vehicles there seems to be alot more competion (well atleast in my area) and that causes for alot more upgrades, in power or subs.. when u get into the very bg spl shooters where they have bullet proof windsheilds,mdf'ed dash and ****..I couldn't imagine how much that would actually cost!
the thing with sq vehicles is you foucs on alot more pieces of equipment , which can add up very quikly, also the installs tend to be more better looking which causes plenty of grave yardshift just to work on one peice of the trunk.
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I think it depends on the scale the install is taken. I mean Richard Clark's old Grand National install cost tons of money. But then look at what Alma Gates did. That sure isn't by any means cheap. I think either way you go you can spend a wad. Just how big you want to build is the only real limit.
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Getting it done, and doing it yourself.....
Most SQ guys take their car to a shop and have it done. Thats why you allways see a picture of 2 guys in the mag's. One is the owner, one is the installer. Not much pride in this... So, 15,000 on one dash, yea, at 50$ a hour, you can rack that up pretty eaisly...
Price vs Price per class, SPL you spend more money as long as you do it yourself.
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quote:Originally posted by SantaBorg: I think it depends on the scale the install is taken. I mean Richard Clark's old Grand National install cost tons of money. But then look at what Alma Gates did. That sure isn't by any means cheap. I think either way you go you can spend a wad. Just how big you want to build is the only real limit.
Both can be very expensive. If you take the products out of the picture - our SQ Explorer cost much more than the Bronco in labor and install. I think it depends on the degree of the install and where you want to play. True, just the vast amount of products in the bronco is frightening. However, good SQ products also can run into big figures.
You look at the bronco and other similar SPL competition vehicles and you know they are expensive. SQ vehicles are not so obvious, but they are very expensive to build.
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Take a look at Mark Eldridge's 4-Runner. Now that's dedication to sound quality! I don't know if any SPL vehicles have that amount of time into them. In labor, I'm thinking it would take close to a million to do a vehicle like that. On average, I'd say they are pretty close, but to the extremes, SQ people probably spend more.
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I think they could both be as expensive it just depends on the extensivness of the install and products. I think it is easier for a lower budgeted person to get into SPL rather than SQ b/c there is much less equipment to buy.
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quote:Originally posted by spl alero: I think they could both be as expensive it just depends on the extensivness of the install and products. I think it is easier for a lower budgeted person to get into SPL rather than SQ b/c there is much less equipment to buy.
Shawn
I agree with this statement. I am a SQ person for the record. I think that DB Drag racing has provided an area for people who don't/can't spend a large amount of money to still be competitive.
If you want a comparision, look at the street 1-2 winner. Add up the cost of his system. I'm sure someone here knows.
For IASCA NOVICE 1-150: http://www.members.tripod.com/ott924/index.htm This individual placed 3rd at finals. He basically was the most dominant 1-150 all year but lost a mid in judging. So basically this is what it took to win IASCA in the lowest level (class and power). Decide for yourself what is more expensive.
Not that it matters, but I do my own installs, 100%
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The SQ runners that I've installed for typically have a "money is no object attitude". The DB Drag crowd usually shops around as much as possible, to get the best deal, however they usually spend about the same on product. SQ lends itself to high amounts of labor though SLP is not quite as bad, it can get there just the same. In the end it just comes down to where your bank account will let you go.
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Really it's a close call but if a guy is in street 1-2 then there won't be that much out comapred to SQ vehicle.. but I don't have enuff patience for SQ.. I like to throw stuff together as the last minute ("Team Last Minute") and you can't do that in SQ. SQ takes alot more time and patience, and the judging EWW I like to just burp and see what I did, not get a 164 and not win cuz I had a bug stuck in my grill or some expando foam showin =) My opinion
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Like alma said. You have the explorer that has a TON of install time into it..more then the bronco. But add up the product cost in it.
Now look at the bronco. Granted alma is sponsered BUT add of the cost of the gear in the bronco.
What mans passion is another poison (sp). I might spend $15,000 on my spl system. The SQ guy next to me might spend $20,000 on his SQ system. Is anyone better just due to that? Or for that matter happier? Other then the fact in this example the SPL guy has $5000 to party on:-)
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