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WoofWoof
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Anybody ever used a sub with an accordion surrounds for SPL?

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Originally posted by WoofWoof:

Anybody ever used a sub with an accordion surrounds for SPL?

i'm not sure what an accordian surround is. Could you describe what that is a little?sounds interesting, but what i think of would be something that would not keep the cone linear when moving as well as conventional surrounds.------------------
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mike_m
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quote:
Originally posted by WoofWoof:

Anybody ever used a sub with an accordion surrounds for SPL?

i'm not sure what an accordian surround is. Could you describe what that is a little?

sounds interesting, but what i think of would be something that would not keep the cone linear when moving as well as conventional surrounds.

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BassFreak
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I was wondering the same thing. I just thought it was one more thing I didn't know

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789Tweeter
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Cerwin Vega, Vegas have an "accordion" type surround.

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WoofWoof
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Accordion surrounds are used in Stage monitors, Portable Speakers, bass/guitar amps, and so on. These type of speakers are are extremely efficent.

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Posts: 110 | From: ca | Registered: Sep 2000 | IP: Logged |

the surround is made from a laminated cloth material the has three or four small rolls in it... like a ripple in a wave and they are not very tall... very stiff and are more common on PA stuff like mentioned before... I was not sure if they would ever work well enough for SPL but as long as it keeps control over the sub that is all that counts...------------------
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bigb7000
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CV Stroker...

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Oh they work well on the Stroker.

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WoofWoof
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I don't think the strokers have an accordion surround. In fact, the spider on top of voice coil moves the cone outward while at the same time, it mantains the voice coil linear. This is my IMO.

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Dude Man
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the only sub i know of that uses that type of surround for car use is the vega. the stroker doesn't have it.

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WoofWoof
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There is actually a car sub that has a accordion surround. I don't know what company makes them, but its use for competition. Its not the Vegas. Although, Vegas have a "accordion" type surrounds, its not actually a accordion. I think the way the Vegas surrounds are design are two small half-rounded foam connected to each other. IMO

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VegaS10
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"Old School" JBL GTi's use the accordian style surround.

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bigb7000
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JBL 1000 watt subs yeah! There has been a lot of car subs with ribbed cones and accordian surrounds but not for SPL... the regular CV is not accordian it is like mentioned before two small rolls made out of foam... and if that is not an accordian surround on a Stroker you tell me what it is because it looks and feels just like an accordian surround... to me it looks like a cloth with a few rolls that is laminated and is that what we all consider an accordion edge surround... hehehehe

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I would call that an accordian 'type' surround.------------------

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I would call that an accordian 'type' surround.

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Mouser
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Wow, I've never noticed that on strokers before due to the dark surrounds, but yes, looks like it. They did have some sort of PA origins though.
Colin

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i always thought accordion surround subs sucked fat balls. guess i was wrong cause strokers are LOUD AS ASS!!!------------------
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ELGEric
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strokers came out (prelim) in the late 70s (according to some sources, i'm not sure if they're reliable or not).

i always thought accordion surround subs sucked fat balls. guess i was wrong cause strokers are LOUD AS ASS!!!

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car tunes
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the new lanzar spx uses this surround,its supposed to be rugged as hell - jeff

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Chad McCan
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Yeah, I think that is about as close to an accordian surround as it gets...

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Andy Jones
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The image dynamics IDW series also used an accordian surround. One of the best SQ subs I have ever heard/owned.

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quote:

Originally posted by Mack:
Yeah, I think that is about as close to an accordian surround as it gets...

Actually, yes, that would be an accordion surround.

WoofWoof
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quote:
Originally posted by Mack:
Yeah, I think that is about as close to an accordian surround as it gets...

Actually, yes, that would be an accordion surround.

Posts: 110 | From: ca | Registered: Sep 2000 | IP: Logged |

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Originally posted by car tunes:
the new lanzar spx uses this surround,its supposed to be rugged as hell - jeff

The Lanzar SPX has a better example of an accordion surround.

WoofWoof
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quote:
Originally posted by car tunes:
the new lanzar spx uses this surround,its supposed to be rugged as hell - jeff

The Lanzar SPX has a better example of an accordion surround.

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