quote:Originally posted by Murph: T taps advertise where to unplug the alarm.
soldered wires advertise where to cut the alarm wires
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Not always. What if you have to take half the dash apart to reveal the t-tap? Thieves will not take the time to disassemble the dash. At least not to where I am talking about.
Being in the security business for many years, experience has taught me that if a thief cannot steal a car within a few moments, he will move on to another car.
Lets just say this. NOT ONE CAR I have installed security on has been stolen!!! I guess thats what matters.
I did have one customer recently come into the shop. She said "Someone smashed out my window last night" (Vehicle I put an alarm in) I asked... Did the alarm go off? She said yes...
I said well, the alarm is why you are only replacing a window, instead of a vehicle.
After she thought about it a minute... she was grateful.
-------------------- David "Quadzilla" McLean Posts: 3359 | From: Jacksonville, FL USA | Registered: Sep 1999
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i use a razor blade, very very tediously! (and hope i dont cut the wire, which hasnt happened yet). hey do you guys think it will be a problem that i cut my wires for a remote start under the steering column: the ignition, starter. i messed up doing them and just snipped them , then ran a small piece of wire in line with them and gobbed it together with solder, then covered it all with a lot of electrical tape. do you think these connections will be ok? i tugged on them and they are not coming apart.
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I dont think you will see any problems with those.
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I don't mean to offend. I install security not alarms. There is a big difference. I guess if you guys are just slamming out remote start systems T taps can work for you.
I think the subject stated "Remote Start Supplies", not security systems. T-Taps arnt ghetto, they work just as good as solder when used correctly. Regardless, use whatever method works best for yourself, your no better of an installer just because you solder everything.
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I don't mean to offend. I install security not alarms. There is a big difference. I guess if you guys are just slamming out remote start systems T taps can work for you.
I think the subject stated "Remote Start Supplies", not security systems. T-Taps arnt ghetto, they work just as good as solder when used correctly. Regardless, use whatever method works best for yourself, your no better of an installer just because you solder everything.
Never said I was better because of solder. I am better than a lot of installers because I care about what I do. I have pride in what I do. If my name is on a ticket, I own it.
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murph, i think what he is referring to is what you said about t-taps being ghetto, just because eomebody chooses to use a t-tap doesnt mean that its ghetto, in your opinion it may be ghetto, but that is your opinion and of course you are entitled to it, the same as the person that chooses to use a t-tap or scotchlok
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sometimes i solder sometimes tap either way hasn't netted me any returns that are install related, really it's all about taking pride in what you do, any car can be stolen alarm or not this past weekend in orlando there was an extremely high rate of thefts and guess what the main method was: a tow truck, a lot of cars were valet parked with top notch "security" systems with the pagers going off the entire time or if a theif couldn't get a car they usually dropped the owner off somewhere...
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i solder EVERY connection. i dont see anything wrong with using T taps if you dont use them on the power,starter,ignition,acc,data bus wires. i have actually picked up some T taps for wires such as trunk release and door locks that are hard to ge to.
as for stripping the wire back small diameter just use reagular strippes and slide the wire back. for larger wires i make 2 cuts with the strippers and slice the middle out with a razor blade. this will allow 3/8 room for soldering large gauge wires...
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quote:Originally posted by Murph: Originally posted by SoundWerx-dreid: The factory dosen't use them and neither will I.
Flase. I install factory remote start/alarm systems for toyota, and they all come with approiate size wire taps and scotchlocks to install them, and they ARE done that way when done at factory (I work on vehicles that customers buy and its not an installed option they want)
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+1 on soldering it takes at most 5-10 seconds each connection. I think it takes about the same time to put a t-tap on. I have never used t-taps im in no way saying people who do are bad installers but I do know customers care about there cars and when we tell them that everything is soldered they fell much more comfortable. plus a soldered connection in my oponion will never come loose or fall off which makes me more comfortable with my install knowing it will never be back.. I have never used t-taps but uninstalled systems that were done at other places and didnt really care for them. as a little tug is all it takes to disconnect it. then alot of people use the wrong size which actually breakes alot of the wire..
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quote:Originally posted by Murph: Originally posted by SoundWerx-dreid: The factory dosen't use them and neither will I.
Flase. I install factory remote start/alarm systems for toyota, and they all come with approiate size wire taps and scotchlocks to install them, and they ARE done that way when done at factory (I work on vehicles that customers buy and its not an installed option they want)
That's dealer not factory.
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quote:Originally posted by Murph: Originally posted by SoundWerx-dreid: The factory dosen't use them and neither will I.
and they ARE done that way when done at factory
That's dealer not factory.
They are done that way when they come as a factory installed option. Granted, 95% of our connections are Y harness' and there is usually only 1 or 2 wires that need to be tapped into, this is still the way they do them
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