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stussycole
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What are some good substitutes to the name brand damping materials? Where can I get a hold of them? Any tips on laying it all down?

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in the for sale section of this forum, there was a link to a site that sells it cheap, it was like $99 for 90square feet. I got my sample today, and it seems to be good stuff, it is a little thinner then dynomatt, but i think it'll work just as good.

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McMaster-Carr sells the stuff that is the same as Dynamat for about 13 dollars for 12 sqft. I think parts express sells the same stuff also. www.mcmaster.com look for Hitemp Mastic www.partsexpress.com

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I got my sample of that stuff today. I tried it on a similar test I seen Dynamat use. Seems ok....but hmm...Maby I will get a roll to test..

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You can get B-QUIET. It just like dynamate but 4 times cheaper!! you can even get a free sample at www.damnloud.com/bquiet.html

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That's funny I got my sample today. It seems cheap, like tar and plastic put together but I will try it.

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try iceguard... u can get it dirt cheap at menards. while not as good as dynamat, is very inexpensive, only costing like 1/50 of dynamat

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Hi everyone. I recently finished my Hi Temp Mastic install. Here's a few tips:

- Get a heat gun...you can purchase them for around $30.

- Heat both surfaces, then apply. I got best results by doing this, rather than heating just one or the other.

- Get some gloves. This stuff can get pretty hot!

- Always know where you set your heat gun down at! I torched myself a few times through negligence!

- Plan on spending many hours doing this. It took me over three days to do the whole interior of my x-cab pickup. Of course, with my sloth-like movement, the average person should be quicker!

- I needed 65 square feet to do the entire interior of a '95 Nissan x-cab PU...just to give you a reference.

- Label or diagram all the parts, screws, bolts, etc. as you take them out! I have a few "extra" screws that I have no idea where they go.

Hope this helps!

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Welcome to the forum MrThick.

Good points there. About then heat guns they can be like dangerious..lol...I burnt myself while taking the badges off my car...Ouch..

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Check out my links:

My up and coming SPL system:
http://www.sounddomain.com/5349
Buddy Todd's SPL System:
http://www.sounddomain.com/7756


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umm.. ok, here's a cheap deadner. RUBBERIZED UNDERCOATING $2.00 a can

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SPL Jester
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SQ.. they sell that stuff at Auto Zone.. $2 and $4 a can.. there is no difference in the two, i think... wonder why the price difference.. made by the same company. Hmm..
But as far as the undercoating goes..... I couldn't get that smell out of my car for weeks.... Talk about getting HIGH ! Damn.. I felt sick for a few days...

BTW... If you choose to use the spray undercoating... GET A RESPIRATOR !!!!!!!!!

Gabriel

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5 gallon pail of fibreglass resin
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200 lbs of sand.

VERY messy but very effective...

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Damn Dukk! That's a great idea!!!

Cheap too! I loe Cheap..I mean inexpensive!

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SPL Jester
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You da man DUKK!! First the blue insulation for sub boxes, and now resin and sand !! What next ? Damn what can you do with Duct tape and chicken wire? Make some subs? LOL
Seriously though, I never thought of that. I have heard of using sand mixed with ruberized coating ( the same rubber as on most tool handles) and mixing the two together.
Dukk, when the resin and sand are mixed, is it easy to apply? I would like to try some on my rear quarterpanels and want to know if it will slide down or not.

Thanks

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Dukk...with the resin and sand...Just mix the 2 and apply?

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Robert (Rob) - 1996 Chevy Cavlier 2.2
Member Of "Team Gates", "Team ProAudio" and "Team Audiobahn"
USAC Sactioned Judge
Check out my links:

My up and coming SPL system:
http://www.sounddomain.com/5349
Buddy Todd's SPL System:
http://www.sounddomain.com/7756


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Dukk
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Well, much more response than last time I suggested this....

The nice thing is you can vary the consistency from a liquid to a pack-in-place mud.

Extremely messy but nice for applications like levelling out a floor..

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How much hardner do you use with it?

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Robert (Rob) - 1996 Chevy Cavlier 2.2
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Check out my links:

My up and coming SPL system:
http://www.sounddomain.com/5349
Buddy Todd's SPL System:
http://www.sounddomain.com/7756


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SPL Jester
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yeah Dukk.. how much hardener, and it will stay in place on a vertical wall, right?

Gabe

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By the time you pay for the resin, wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy Dynamat?

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stussycole
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No, fiberglass materials aren't expensive. But, which would you rather have? The mixture adds mass and I would assume a lot of rigidity and is spreadable.

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Please check my homepage (in sig) and click on the "sound deadening" section.

Thanks
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Hmmm, nobody home there.....

As for hardener - I usually add 10-15% for regular work (I hate to wait) so for that I would keep it to 5-8% unless it is really cool out.

Totally mass addition - absolutely no absorption.

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quote:
Originally posted by bplesn:
Please check my homepage (in sig) and click on the "sound deadening" section.

Thanks
ben


I guess there's something wrong with the main page, so go to http://www.resnet.wm.edu/~bplesn/sounddead.html


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Hey all LCLS (I Owen it) Makes Stuff called Rockhard or Rockhard gold. Its spray in, and really kicks ass. Email me for more info if you wish.

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