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SS Mobile Xcitement
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I understand the theory behind using two or three Eqs, but don't know how to wire? Do you make a switching unit to switch back an forth. or is it manual Labor.
You see this done alot in mags and stuff, with EQT's.

any help would be great!


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you would indeed have a switching system of some type to bypass the 1 or 2 your not using and engage the one or 2 you are using. Pretty easy to do, basically, extend the bypass button inside the eq and your pretty much done.

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Well EQT's are different. A single EQT is not a stereo unit. It is a mono unit. There for in a system that plays in stereo..and I would be willing to bet most of us here do you would have to have 2 EQT's. One for a left and one for a right signal.

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Ah yes, but, using the right switches, you can combine the bypass buttons from 2 mono eq's to simultaneously switch them in and out.

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quote:
Originally posted by Audiophyle:
Ah yes, but, using the right switches, you can combine the bypass buttons from 2 mono eq's to simultaneously switch them in and out.



I could be wrong but I've never seen an eq with a bypass that completely shunts out the output. I've seen it bypass the "equalization" part but still allow the origal signal flow threw.
Also, two eq's would be used for left and right sound, an the third would be for either the left or right signal, then split afterwards to the rest of the chain of components.

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bypassing the EQ section is all that is necessary, unless looking to shunt the EQ all together, then a relay controlled switching system would become necessary.

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Maby I need to take a look at my EQT's again. I didnt see a bypass button on them. I have seen them on other EQ's though.

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I know quite a few guys with 3 EQs that only run ONE side of the car for RTA (hence the 3rd EQ). THis cuts down on any interferences that occur naturally in the car.

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Right, one mono signal so there's less chance of interferance. but again back to my original question, how do you switch back and forth between the two "stereo" eqs, and the "mono" eq. I would hope not just unpluging the RCA's. You could do it with a boat load of relays, but that could get bulky. Do you know how your friends are doing it.


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Well lets say SS you have 3 EQT, and you put two on the right channel and one on the left. You tune one for RTA and the other for SQ when the RTA section come up just hit the bypass button on the SQ EQ and viola there you have it

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Well I heard of some one having a switch made. One setting it uses the 2 RCA to the 2 EQ's...then the other setting it just sends a mono signal to the one eq. Not sure how to build it though.

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Now that's what I'm talkin about. I don't anyone here actually has made one,(switching unit), But I know i could make one with some relays. I was thinking something down the lines of a 2 position rotarty switch. Eq or Rta. Haven't looked but radioshiznack might have one or maybe Active electronics.

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Easy. Buy a Schoshe dual source switcher.

Wire the stereo output of the 2 SQ EQs into 'source 1' then wire the single output of the RTA EQ into either one or both of the 'source 2' inputs.. You'll need to add a slpitter before the one SQ EQ ot use a second RCA output from the deck. Flip the switch and it will change between the 2 types of EQ.

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Pro, Tach may be able to give us some info on something like that

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I remember who it was that I was told that can build one. It was "Eddie The Installer" from team ROCS.

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Yeah, Scosche does sell them its a (US-3)its called a universal switcher. retails for about $29.95. I'm trying to get some specifics on it when I do I'll Post'em here.

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Heck, it's simple to build one, but someone wanted plug and play....

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Alright Dukk,

I know I'm new to the forum, and that you been "Doing this" for what 8,10 years? But what's up? First you say "Easy, buy a scosche dual source switcher." Then you say, "Heck, Its simple to build one, but someone wanted plug and play...."
Where do you stand? Buy one or make one? What's the forum really for, to make the people, that have been in the biz for a while, feel important. Or is it about sharing what you know with someone who doesn't know. I may have to look back at my post but I thought I asked specifically how to make one. And when I read your post and see "its simple" It feels like you're saying "Ha Ha, I know how its done and you don't!"
I don't mean to offend you, you are definitely a person with lots of knoledge, and experiance, but its so damn frustrating when you try to learn and devolop your skills and everyone keeps there secrets locked up tighter than a virgin's P@#**$!

I hope I don't get banned from the forum but I speak from my heart, and if I stay true to my self, I'll be just fine.....


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Sorry dude, I didn't mean to make light of your question.
I, myself, would make one. Since I twist my own RCAs it would be straightforward for me to use 4 relays to do what I want. (it's no technological gee-whizzer but it works okay).
My first response was more for those who do not like to play with their wiring and wanted an easy fix.

ACTUALLY, I would avoid the whole thing and buy an EPX2 anyway but then, I'm just lazy...

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Have HoleSaw, Will Travel!

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I would like to formally apologize to Dukk for the way I mouthed off. There is no acceptable excuse. I am truly sorry. I hope one day to be as knowledgable and helpful as yourself one day. Thanks

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Don't mention it at all. I get a little flippant sometimes.
And I still learn new things every day, mostly from all you guys!

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Have HoleSaw, Will Travel!


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most EQS will also pass signal whiel off.
so u could easily makes a switch using a relay on the remote wire to teh EQS.
flip the switch and the SQ (l/r) switch off and the RTA ones turns on.
that is a realy easy way to do it.

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