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o2MilleniASs
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just small tips in general..go in detail if you want about how to create better SQ..

thanks!

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You are going to have to narrow that down a bit, and be more specific as to what you are looking for.

The way it is now, you have a question as broad as "what is the meaning of life".

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best tip i can tell you is equal out your pathlengths as best you can. the closer you get the distances from left to right the easier your sound stage gets. get within 6" of left and right being equal you have alot of it whooped.

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quote:
Originally posted by Andy Jones:
"what is the meaning of life".

to find that perfect sound or die trying...? [Confused]

[ 08-26-2006, 08:03 AM: Message edited by: EastCoast ]

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sound deadener should be used on EVERYTHING. midbass can really use some acoustic foam to help standing waves. ideally, the acoustic foam can be used in your sub box as well. i prefer vented enclosures, tuned very low.. like 26-27hz, and let the midbass take over by 65hz.

find a few really good songs to tune with in many musical genres. try all types of music you can... it helps more than you'd imagine.

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Foam does nothing for or in sub enclosures...and depending on how low you are talking about in the midbass, it wouldn't do anything there either.

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also get your front stage to play as low CLEANLY as possible.

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Maybe. maybe not...all depends on your woofer's ability to play midbass and how clean/fast it can do it. FWIW, today's super woofers can't do either, so you would want your front to play lower.

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quote:
Originally posted by winslow:
Maybe. maybe not...all depends on your woofer's ability to play midbass and how clean/fast it can do it. FWIW, today's super woofers can't do either, so you would want your front to play lower.

not everyone has had idw's lol

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I know I know...and the supply of them has dried up for good. Which, that is pretty bad for me cause I need a recone kit for one of my drivers.

But you could probably get similar results with a driver that has a high BL, low mms, low inductance, lowish Fs, and xmax in the 6-7mm range.

Trick is finding such a driver.

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Tip to better SQ - Start competing in SQ competition.
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quote:
Originally posted by winslow:
I know I know...and the supply of them has dried up for good. Which, that is pretty bad for me cause I need a recone kit for one of my drivers.

But you could probably get similar results with a driver that has a high BL, low mms, low inductance, lowish Fs, and xmax in the 6-7mm range.

Trick is finding such a driver.

woowzers eric wont do them/repair them anylonger?

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quote:
Originally posted by winslow:
I know I know...and the supply of them has dried up for good. Which, that is pretty bad for me cause I need a recone kit for one of my drivers.

But you could probably get similar results with a driver that has a high BL, low mms, low inductance, lowish Fs, and xmax in the 6-7mm range.

Trick is finding such a driver.

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bl - 24. and some change
mms - 0.190kg
inductance Le? [Confused] 1.4mH
fs - 36 (little high?)
xmax - 9mm

?? [Confused]

[ 08-26-2006, 08:02 AM: Message edited by: EastCoast ]

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Can't physically do it since the OEM went out of business and soft parts got scarce.

quote:
Originally posted by amish power:
quote:
Originally posted by winslow:
I know I know...and the supply of them has dried up for good. Which, that is pretty bad for me cause I need a recone kit for one of my drivers.

But you could probably get similar results with a driver that has a high BL, low mms, low inductance, lowish Fs, and xmax in the 6-7mm range.

Trick is finding such a driver.

woowzers eric wont do them/repair them anylonger?


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Sounds like a typical prosound based driver. Should be pretty good...not quite IDW good though (they had even better specs)

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Originally posted by deaf tones:
quote:
Originally posted by winslow:
I know I know...and the supply of them has dried up for good. Which, that is pretty bad for me cause I need a recone kit for one of my drivers.

But you could probably get similar results with a driver that has a high BL, low mms, low inductance, lowish Fs, and xmax in the 6-7mm range.

Trick is finding such a driver.

??

bl - 24. and some change
mms - 0.190kg
inductance Le? [Confused] 1.4mH
fs - 36 (little high?)
xmax - 9mm

?? [Confused]



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sweet [Smile]

not to be a complete noob here, but what would 2-3 less mm of xmax really do for me?

should I be looking for an fs at least in the mid 20's...?

and how's these 18"s sizing up in the Le, mms & bl department...?

what would be a range to look for?

quote:
Originally posted by winslow:
Sounds like a typical prosound based driver. Should be pretty good...not quite IDW good though (they had even better specs)

quote:
Originally posted by deaf tones:
quote:
Originally posted by winslow:
I know I know...and the supply of them has dried up for good. Which, that is pretty bad for me cause I need a recone kit for one of my drivers.

But you could probably get similar results with a driver that has a high BL, low mms, low inductance, lowish Fs, and xmax in the 6-7mm range.

Trick is finding such a driver.

??

bl - 24. and some change
mms - 0.190kg
inductance Le? [Confused] 1.4mH
fs - 36 (little high?)
xmax - 9mm

?? [Confused]




[ 08-26-2006, 08:02 AM: Message edited by: EastCoast ]

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What driver is that?


P.S. Your mailbox is full so here is a "public" private message. You are going to have to get rid of that sig if you want to post in these sections. I disabled the ones I saw for the time being.

Its not that your sig is so super offensive, its that one sig leads to another and before we know it we have a whole bunch of sigs that are getting out of hand. Your help is appreciated.

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for you, eastcoast, no problem [Wink]

i appreciate you being direct, to the point, and most of all respectful about it...so how can i argue with that(?)

much appreciated.

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quote:
Originally posted by EastCoast:
What driver is that?

pix to come. [Smile]

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quote:
it would all be for nothing without my favorite cawk-smoker NAvi


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get a good set of components K2p for example..dynaudio....boston

good head unit.....

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big one that's often overlooked too...

constant power. voltage drop can be a big killer in sound.

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alpine 9847
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hifonics zx4000
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hifonics bx1500d
2 IDMAX12d4.v3's in 4.7 cubes, tuned ~32hz
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quote:
Originally posted by EastCoast:
What driver is that?

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[ 09-01-2006, 05:48 PM: Message edited by: deaf tones ]

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it would all be for nothing without my favorite cawk-smoker NAvi


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[ 09-02-2006, 12:35 AM: Message edited by: deaf tones ]

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it would all be for nothing without my favorite cawk-smoker NAvi


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quote:
Originally posted by deaf tones:

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bl - 24. and some change
mms - 0.190kg
inductance Le? [Confused] 1.4mH
fs - 36 (little high?)
xmax - 9mm

?? [Confused]

ummm... Elaborate on that one. I would not mind having one, or 8 to play around with.
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