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Wayne: Thank you for making us tweekers a forum topic of our own!! I, for one, do truly appreciate it! Now, on to the SQ stuff! General question time! Ok, Does anyone think one make of car is better for SQ than another? I believe that the make of car DOES make some difference. Although I believe that the quality of the interior, be it leather or cloth, makes more difference. It seems that some cars make themselves more available to really great sounding platforms. Just looking for general thoughts here. I think the best sounding cars are the Honda accord 88-93 and the Acura Integra 4door 88-92. Just my thoughts though.
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I've always found trucks harder to get good SQ from than cars, especially SUVs. I'm not sure if I have a favorite car for SQ, but 4 door sedans seem to be rather nice, because you can either go with doors and/or kicks up front, doors in the rear and rear deck for rear and mid-rear fill/mid-bass.
I've heard some really smooth systems in Eagle Talons/Mitsu Eclipses. The 6x9 location is prime to get some nice mid-bass and fill that does not over power the doors, but very easily flows into the driving area. Plus, lots of nice room for good quality subs and amps behind the rear "seats" or insurance buffers as my friend calls them .
Thought about the Sunfires, but haven't tried anything with my Sister-in-law's yet. Wife's Protege (Mazda) would be very nice for SQ, just need a butt-load of dynamat, since it's so low and not very heavy to begin with.
my thoughts, and yes, Wayne Thanks .
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alrile, I second your motion
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Are you talking Pontiac Sunfires? If so, whenever you put a system in your sister-in-law's car, shoot a couple of photos and send them my way. I have a hard time finding sunfires/cavaliers with decent installations in mags/on the net.
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Posts: 245 | From: College Station, TX | Registered: May 1999
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The Acura TL 96-98 was a nice luxury sedan that was not very difficult to work with. It had a lot of places to put speakers, for exaple it came with stock tweeters in the roof right in front of the rear veiw mirror.
My 99 TL is a bitch. The factory head is an odd shape, the nav system makes is even more of a bitch changing to a nice after market head, the door speakers are 6" (not 6.5, not 5.25, but 6"!), and the I had to make MDF spacers so that an aftermarket (HARD TO FIND) 6" speaker would fit in the door. There isn't even a decent place to put an in-dash EQ.
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Kind of in line with bugsz24 on this one. I read that cars without center consoles have the best chance for a good front soundstage (no diffracted sound waves). Can't test this theory though, as my dad won't let me put a real system in his GTO.
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To a wide dash I will add low seats which lean back sports car style.(eg. GM f-cars) The low seats put the listener down closer to the level of the sound stage and result in longer and more equal path lengths compared to a truck where your ears are higher than, and closer to, the speakers.
As well as the wide dash the wide footwells provide more room for the sound waves to reach the listener with less obstructions.
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I've practically given up on sq in my pickup. The shape of the cab is all wrong. I've got decent frequency balance and a good natural sound, but the sound stage is very low and not real wide. Hell, my old car ('88 Ford Tempo) kicked some major ass in the sound q respect, but the entire rear of the car was stuffed with insulation, filled with expanding foam and covered in dynamat and mdf. Lots of work for a piece of **** car, but it was MY piece of **** car and I had to drive it 2 hours each day to work and back.
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Totally agree with uncle ber, my wife's fullsize Bronco doesn't take too well for SQ. On the other hand, my Sunfire has an incredible (least I think so) transfer function. All I'm running for a sub is a single 10W6 with about 200 watts and people swear I have more subs. Problem is, the damn door panels vibrate like crazy from my front seperates. Johnny Ringo: I just found out that I can borrow a digital camera from work so I shoot you some pictures, although it's nothing special.
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Good question Audiophyle, I would have to say that yes, some cars are better for SQ than others, such as sedans, and station wagons, SUV's. Big interior vehicles are able to have a longer wavelength for better low end response. As for image and sound staging, I would say it all depends on speaker placement and dispertion characteristics of the driver. Placement is always critical, and unfortunatly most installers have to abide by the "interior decorator's" (owner) wishes, and their own efficiency and capabilities. And thank you Wayne for giving us tweek-a-holics our own "couch".
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