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N2deep
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Ok I have two spl 12's. I am looking at either a mmatsD300 or a Usa300x. Which is a better amp, that puts out more clean power. And also will i lose any sound quality going with mmats because I have heard they aren't as clean as class A/B amps, like USamps. Also any other suggestions for good sq amps for subs would be appreciated. Thanks

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I'd go a/b for SQ.

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yeah, go with the us amps, you'd save batt power with the class D, but the us will be much cleaner

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You think going with the Usa300x will give me an audible difference over the mmats, considering the amp will be pushing subs. because the D300 is only $420 and thats all I would like to spend but if the U.S. amp is THAT much better sq wise I will fork over the extra $150.

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The US Amps for $570???

Dude that's a steal for 900watts RMS @ 12.v
That amp is a bit under rated & can easily do 1000 watts.

I'd go for it. Can your Alt handle it?

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I exagerated the price on the U.S. amp i can get it for the exact price of $589(plus shipping). I don't know if my alternator can handle it. I have a 87 BroncoII. What do you guys think, can it handle it or would i need a new alternator? So out of all the amps out there are the U.S. amps one of the better quality amps on the market?

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$589? from where.

I have used US Amps since 1990 & they are absoutely awesome. Yes, definitely up there with the top dogs.

They are small company in FL, & they put out quality not quantity.

Don't know about your alt in the Bronco II.

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N2Deep, if you're going for sq, I wouldn't use those ss spl12s....I ran three ss spl10s in .78 ft^3 boxes for a few days and they definatly serve their name....spl. IMO...they weren't very musical. I'd take the spls back and buy a pair of exacts if you were gonna stay w/ss.

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yes koolade, i know i wanted two 12 inch exacts very bad, but I went with the spl's to save money.
Does anyone have a mmats? Everyone keeps saying go with U.S.amps, I want to know how the mmats sound, since they are pushing subs distortion shouldn't be as much as a factor, and I wouldn't think you could tell a difference between the two amps. But since i leace in Cali i can't listen to them. So someone help me? Thanks

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Hmm N2deep, as you mention those prices you can get those amps for, I am guessing that your are gettin them from an internet site??? Just becareful, most companys wont back up the warranties if you do not buy it from an authorized dealer of some sorts. I was going to get the Mmats from Tms eclectronics.com, but after speaking to the "Griz", he said Mmats would not back up the warranty, because they sold it for so cheap, and that they were going to be cuttin of there supply to them. Just becareful, and make sure you check the warranty situation with the company (us or mmats) before you buy it.

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How much power does the U.S. put out? It says 300x2 RMS. i know they are underated how many watts do they realisticly(sp) put out.

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Go with the mmatts and a pair of DD sq subs.

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Any other suggestions on good amps.

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Linear Power TO-3 series. Would you be surprised when a 50 watt Linear Power tore those subs a new one? Because the 3.2 would, and I know where a few are at for really, really good prices.

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Never heard of them.. give me some more info on them, who are they? How much do they cost?

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Go to Linearpower.com

If you can get them by all means do. They are amazing amplifiers.

So is US Amps, I've used both & if I had my way I'd own 2 cars.

1 with US Amps
1 with Linear Power Amps

And if I didn't have a wife AND my way... 4 cars

1 with Phoenix Gold
1 with Zapco

Then I'd be late for work because I couldn't pick wich one to drive.

I know is getting late

ZZZZ

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N2deep MMats sound like any other class D high THD+N, low freq. resp. high power and low impact on a eletrical system

LP 3.2 rated 25x2, realistic 700x2

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class Ds dont suck that much power for a lotta power in return but they were made for spl purposesthey are dirty amps and arent designed to go too low
I use U.S amps Myself
Im like my U>S>amp but
Whatever you get dont get a class d

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I wouldn't say don't get it, I've seen some SQ vehicles on just their subs if you keep teh x-over freq. low like 50Hz you won't get teh dirty part of the signal

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Why don't you run a sound quality amp thats real powerful like Zapco? Get the AG750 that does 750x1 at 4ohm mono and retails for only $599. Or the AG1000 that retails at $899 and does 900x1.

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The US is good choice...enough said...

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Dont forget about the PG ZPA0.5 for the SQ. Yes you need power to run them but it may be worth it.

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SQ you say? Anyone else feel like a BigMac? McIntosh!!! Milbert, Blade, Monolith, Tube Driver, Orion HCCA/XTR, Xtant, Zapco, PG, PPI, old school SS Ref series. MTX isn't a bad option either, AS2000 stated that it was the quietest they had ever heard, for THD and noise.

US Amps is a hellishly good choice though. Again, for that price, wow!!! For those prices I'd be tempted to forget about McIntosh, tempted.

Alpine and Eclipse aren't bad, but I'd look into the others first. I've always like Orion XTR and HCCA. Xtant is clean, but realibility issues. PPI, very clean for the price (in comparison in price to Milbert and Macs). PG, same as PPI. MTX/RF - affordable bass machines, but you already knew that.

Tube Driver would be nice and warm

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